For someone who can't spell "layed out" correctly, you can feel free to keep to reddit.

there really isn't good discourse on Hubsk

Tell me this isn't good discourse. Or this or this? What is your definition of "good discourse"? Not to toot my own horn but you don't think this is a solid, intellectual discussion? In which case what the fuck are your parameters for good discourse? I see people disagreeing here. I see people presenting their opinions. I can find you that and more. It's easy.

There's something to be said for being able to go at it in a discussion, provided neither party is openly attacking the other. These sorts of discussions cannot happen often on hubski (despite what a few will claim).

Considering I have already provided you some evidence to the contrary and can dig out more, give me some evidence that your statement is true. You know. Something that might mitigate what I've put forth.

If Reddit is more to your tastes, then as I've told others: please - stay there.

Also, it's "laid out," not "layed out." It's "its issues" not "it's." I don't think it's a common fear that someone will mute you just because you disagree with them on one point. "Mute" is not commonly used that way, especially as relationships build between users.