Well, I'm jealous . . . Too bad the durian analogy doesn't continue though. If it did, I'd just wait until dark and steal the durian from the trees. Y'know, if I could stand the stuff. Now, this "John Carter" (no, I didn't ask how his trip to Mars was) swore up and down that the calls are all recorded, since I brought that up, but I don't have those records, so I guess I'd better bet that they're not recorded at all. E-mail is a good idea. I will do that now as a precaution, thanks. Edit: From my experience, backed up by your anecdote, it does seem like the Affordable Care Act is a way of moving everything in the middle and is great for no one. I really do hope that people don't decide that this is enough, but I bet it will take a whole lot of dissatisfaction to get people riled up enough to vote for something better.