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user-inactivated  ·  3350 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: rd95 and ThatFanficGuy talk religion. Part 1. Older civilizations and the benefits of practicing religion

I never meant to say that people in general - or a particular group of people - are misguided and/or ignorant. If it came out that way, I apologize. Some people can be, and often enough, people with similar misguidance and/or ignorance gather together to form a group. What I meant to say is that I believe that religion, as a concept and as an activity, has outlived its superiority in society, with things going without it pretty fine. It's no longer a matter of belief for me that people can live without religion, and I'm impetted to say that one has to given how good secular institutions provide or are capable of providing the same benefits, but this one is not up to me to decide.

Now, let me jump to something that appalled me:

    It is pretty much a given that laws are absolutely essential for the survival of any civilization. Anyone that says otherwise is an idiot (or an anarchist, which is a special kind of idiocy on its own)

rd95, dude... what the hell? Haven't you been the one to tell me abour respect and love towards others? And now you're saying that those who believe in anarchy are idiots. I don't get it. Anarchy can work pretty fine for smaller communities; one might argue that, with the right set of values instilled (which is clearly possible given that parents are capable of raising mentally-healthy and otherwise positively-adjusted children), it could work for things on a bigger scale. Yet you give it an off-hand slap to the face without a good enough reason in a topic devoted to religion which you oppose me bashing. Can you explain this one to me?

Before I go into replying to what's been stated as good reasons to practice religion by rd95, I must state that I find it unreasonable to discuss older-days usage of something in context of how it matters in the present. One might derive usages from history and see how they transformed in the modern world, but I see no point in argument about what it was good for. Therefore, I ask you: what is it good for? If you stand by the same points for this question as well, let me know and I'll reply to that with all of my arguments.