Hey, I don't want to dog on you or anything, but cherry picking extreme examples to try and make a point is a pretty unhealthy way to discuss an issue that is historically speaking extremely complexed and nuanced, especially when extremes can be found on both ends of the faith spectrum. People of faith, of any type, deserve a fair shake. After all we really are all in this together and there is a huge difference between condemning behavior we see as unhealthy and painting people in an unfair light at best and dehumanizing them at worse. I'm not saying that's what you're intentionally doing, but it can easily come across that way. Historically speaking, the world of science and mathematics has benefited immensely from people of all faiths and walks of life and we owe a lot to them. On a similar note, there are rational men and women of faith today and they have a right to be appreciated and accepted just like everyone else. Just to kind of balance out the cherry picking, I'll leave these here . . . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_scientists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Catholic_scientists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christians_in_science_and_technology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_scientists_and_philosophers