I have turned many 3s into 1s with a few months of experience, teaching, and priming with proper ways to find, locate, and read through reference documents.

Dude, fuck that shit. Fuck it in the neck. Fuck everything about it, fuck it sideways, fuck it upside down, fuck it raw. You're saing that "a few months" of wading through YOUR world is necessary for me to connect my wife's cell phone to my wife's office phone without breaking the fucking law.

I never stated anything about your wife's cellphone. I'm talking about server administration. We're talking about data of 9.3 million records of healthcare records, and if that data is on your phone you are a fucking moron.

I take everything back. You are not a 3, you are a 4. You are actively against knowledge and learning new things in an industry where change happens every 5 minutes. We are beyond loggerheads, you need to be permanently fired and excommunicated from the data security industry if you currently are working in it.

Wade through my experience? What do you think doctors do? They read a book and start cutting people open? They learn, they constantly learn, and they SHADOW OTHER DOCTORS WHO TEACH THEM THE WAYS OF THE BUSINESS.

EVERY other industry operates this way. EVERY SINGLE ONE. Even McDonald's workers shadow other McDonald's workers to get experience. I went to Taco Bell once and had a confusing conversation with the drive in attendant saying I ordered "A burrito" when I actually ordered a specific type of burrito and was confused if they had placed the order incorrectly. When I got to the drive up he was in training and the guy was telling him he should have told me that I ordered a "burrito grande whateverthefuck" because it confuses the customers. It's a simple mistake to make, but the worker was willing to learn, and learned it right there. I doubt he confused another patron again. That's a good employee.

I'm the type of person that is tolerant to lack of knowledge, because I remember when I was that way myself and wished I had more guidance. So I provide it to those who want it. But those who don't want it and want to just sit around and collect a paycheck while fucking the rest of us over because they aren't willing to listen to the (REASONABLE, not elitist pricks) intelligent people who are trying to help are a significant problem.

Had a coworker. He used to be a license enforcement dick for Muzak. Means he'd wander around to restaurants and shake down people who were playing the radio instead of paying Muzak for their shitty $25/mo mechanical royalty service. So when the office we worked at wanted to put music-on-hold on our phone system, the asshole made the receptionist get a written letter of permission signed by a lawyer in order to use her fucking string quartet on our phone system. And he was technically correct - the worst kind of correct.

But everybody else? They plug the fucking radio into the PBX and call it a day.

Because we don't have time for that shit, and we shouldn't be required to.

It isn't about blame. It's about a reasonable effort for a reasonable return, and you're advocating a strenuously unreasonable effort for a truly minuscule return.

This example has nothing to do with what we are talking about. I'm not talking about phone systems, I'm talking about data protection. Phone systems aren't going to cause 9.3 million records of data being stolen. And you're right, that sounds like a dumb law. When did I support that law?

My strenously unreasonable effort is something that takes about 5 minutes to enable on a SAN or a filesystem level snapshotting system to protect the identities of millions of people. In ANY environment in the healthcare industry where you are now responsible for backups, they would immediately tell you to do so and explain how. I thought you were arguing in favor of the end-user, but really you are just arguing that all IT workers are bad because of your bad experiences with tech people. I'm simply pointing out that in the healthcare industry not only is it highly regulated and wouldn't have these issues. I don't set policies, and I don't enforce policies. I don't advocate policies. I'm simply informing people that because of current regulations, this wouldn't be an issue. Probably ever.

It's like having a lawyer trying to explain to you how the NSA justifies their surveillance through the legal system and then you kneeing the guy in the balls. All the while him thinking, "Not one law I just described do I think we should have on the books, but if we can't explain what laws are on the books we can't revoke them." You are being entirely counterproductive here.

These conversations with you exemplify everything that is wrong with Reddit. Not Hubski, Reddit. This is supposed to be a simple discussion place, and not a flame war over god knows what anymore.