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Indeed. I think the only reason spez in those "admin chats" (which I thought were actually default moderators) says solidly that they won't ban/don't want to ban T_D is because at least they are vaguely contained where they are. Imagine if they did ban that sub what a disaster it would be. The mistake they make is assuming it's a problem with that subreddit's users, when it's just part of reddit's nature that they've been able to use so massively. It's always had toxic lairs.