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I am firmly of the opinion that voting of any kind is only helpful in ranking the discussion as beheld by its participants and spectators. One aspect I'm keenly fond of on Hubski is the fact that the wheel loops around for ever and ever without counting because you know what? Outside of an individual comment, the overall score of any participant is totally irrelevant. I'm currently in a fight with some mouthbreathers in /r/centuryclub about how their endless pursuit of karma is, in fact, the cancer that is killing /b/.