Well, I wouldn't say these folk aren't punks, but I am speaking more in terms of a movement with undeniable cultural force. Ever since the "drop out and tune in" of the 60's, there have been people living like this. I've known plenty. When I speak of punk being dead, I am referring to a voice as well, one that breaks through with clarity. IMHO we are in some sort of doldrums coincident with a loss of sincerity. Shit, there's so little sincerity, there's even a counter-culture sincerity movement which IMO has failed miserably. It might not be a loss of sincerity, actually. It might be a hyper-context-awareness, that I am talking about. I think punk said: "Fuck you and fuck the reasons you do shit you stupid fuck." :)

I should try to get these thoughts in order.

EDIT: You know, on reflection, it might not be a lack of sincerity. It might just be that the time isn't ripe for it. The punk I am talking about wouldn't clash with much these days. Plenty of people are off the grid for a variety of reasons. Maybe they are laying groundwork.