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user-inactivated  ·  4403 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The Jury Is No Longer Out

> Just because the Supreme Court says so, does not make it necessarily right or constitutional (see the Dred Scott Decision).

How weird to read the importance of a court whose's decision here must obviously be right (oddly aligning with your views) while simultaneously being fallible. And you bounce between the importance of the intent of the founding father of the US ... but they wanted slavery, too. And they wanted only white males who owned land to vote. Do you want that, too?

So which is it? Is it you just want to cherry pick to suit your faith. What is the councilor was Muslim and refused to see a Christian?





hootsbox  ·  4402 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Very few, if you will read history correctly, of the Founders were in favor of slavery. In fact, Jefferson was torn in his soul about the "contradiction" between "all men are created equal" and his own life which included slaves. This fact was also the case with Washington (who freed his slaves after Martha's death and saw them as caretakers of his wife and not so much "slaves"). Very few of the Founders were true "Deists" and many of the signers of the Declaration and the signers of the Constitution were preachers, graduates of seminary, or seminary heads (see link below). In fact, it was mostly Christians who led the anti-slavery movement! Beginning in England, it was William Wilberforce, and certainly many of the Founders. You were probably taught a very narrow view of the Founders in your education which is very much in keeping with my earlier comment about secular "drool" and the intent of "revisionists" that want to slant our country's history in their personal direction. Two prominent signers, and later Vice Presidents and Presidents, were vehemently anti-slavery; notably Adams and Madison). They insisted on the language in the Constitution to read "three fifths of all other persons" (note the word persons and not property) because it would, several years later, lead to passage of all types of laws banning slavery and eventually we got the 13th Amendment.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_religion_were_the_Founding_Fa...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolitionism

To answer your "Muslim Counselor" question, as long as they requested a "referral" (as did Julea Ward) and not a "denial" I have no problem. Otherwise, the school would have to be comfortable with me counseling the person in, as innocuous a way as possible" to see things a different way; hence, the referral request - which, by the way, is standard counseling practice in "real-life" counseling practices.