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b_b  ·  4176 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Our Democracy Is at Stake - NYTimes.com

I think people are entrenched in their views for the most part, but I don't think it's true that liberals and conservatives don't interact. There are certainly geographic areas where one ideology is dominant, and perhaps in those areas people are less likely to have friends of a different creed. But for most of us, politics just don't reign supreme when picking our friends, neighbors and whom to spend holidays with. Personally--and although I speak for myself I know many people who are the same as me--I'm a fairly liberal thinking I suppose, but my friends and family are all over the map. We talk, argue, debate, but at the end of the day, it doesn't matter if we "compromise" (as the commenter suggests), because there's nothing to compromise over. We aren't the ones making the political decisions. I can convince my gun loving friend that maybe handguns for everyone isn't a good idea, and perhaps he can convince me that we don't need higher taxes, but in the end neither of us has a vote in the legislature. The real problem isn't people not talking, it's political entrenchment (protection of incumbents at all costs to society) and big money politics, where laws are written by groups whom the law is supposed to protect us from.

edit: Friedman is a windbag who just spouts meaningless drivel not supported by data to promote his inane opinions about the world. Not sure how he still has a job, or why anyone listens to him when he's wrong so very, very often.





NikolaiFyodorov  ·  4176 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I don't doubt that liberals and conservatives still interact within the community; my point is that the interaction isn't occurring in the public sphere, where it is needed. Instead, both sides seem to be doing their utmost to shoehorn the motives of the other half of the population into a box. That is how it looks from outside the United States, at least.

Not a regular reader of the NY Times so I couldn't give you an informed opinion about Friedman either way. I'm happy to accede to your perspective.

b_b  ·  4174 days ago  ·  link  ·  

By "public sphere" you mean the media. The media in this country are a disaster thanks largely to for profit, publicly traded news being the overwhelming source for most people. If it looks like liberals and conservatives don't interact to the rest of the world, it is wholly the result of the media concocting and exporting a story they find compelling. Politicians, most of whom are egomaniacs, love this narrative, because it give them them the feeling that they are like a sports team that gets to have a cheering section.