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humanodon  ·  4156 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The Masculine Mystique: Inside The Men's Rights Movement (MRM) - The Daily Beast

While I know exactly the kind of guy you're talking about and I agree that custody issues are heavily biased in the favor of women, there are some situations where men's complaints do seem to be dismissed out of hand. For example, female on male rape, men who have been trafficked and even coerced into sex work.

I don't identify as a "men's rights" guy, but I do think that there is a problem of women accusing men of rape when in fact it did not happen. I am not saying that this is a common problem, or that it is an acceptable conclusion for police or others to jump to when hearing about the possibility of a rape. But it does happen. Rape is such a huge problem in general precisely because it's often so hard to concretely prove exactly what happened and I have certainly seen people try to take advantage of that. That said, that example of that ad campaign (don't be that girl) is awful and undermines the idea that a man can be falsely accused of rape by a woman who regrets their encounter.

I don't know if you've ever seen this Dave Chapelle bit. Granted, it's supposed to be a segue into a Clinton/Lewinski joke, but that part really stuck with me because I've seen how true that can be. Even if no legal action can be taken in a situation like that, it can result in someone being heavily ostracized in their community with no way to prove their innocence.

From what I've seen about this "men's rights" thing, it really seems to harm more than help, if only by pointing fingers and reframing serious issues in such a way as to make them look asinine.





b_b  ·  4156 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Not arguing that there aren't specific situations where men are victims. Just saying that this "movement" from everything I've observed IRL and on the Internet is a joke, a misogynistic circle jerk that doesn't seem to get how silly it looks to the world. Feminists to them are as Jews are to the neo nazis, it seems.

Shitty_Physics  ·  4154 days ago  ·  link  ·  
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humanodon  ·  4156 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Not arguing that there aren't specific situations where men are victims

Yeah, I had a bit of a hard time deciding if I should respond to you because I felt that what I was saying was related to your reply or to the thread in general.

I thought that whole obsession with the extreme (or "x-treme") was a '90's thing, but there's a whole lot of extremism going around right now.

    Just saying that this "movement" from everything I've observed IRL and on the Internet is a joke, a misogynistic circle jerk that doesn't seem to get how silly it looks to the world.

It's interesting to see how the rise of communications technology coincides with a widespread lack of self-awareness in more ways than masses of people staring at their phones.