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insomniasexx  ·  4034 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The Value of Content

These types of tricks are cheap.

I put them in the same category as the "like on facebook to continue playing game."

I put them in the same category as misleading or downright hidden options that are hard to navigate and change every couple months - skip to 6:00 in the video and reset (facebook).

I put them in the same category as signing a user up for 50,000 daily alerts when you create an account somewhere.

Harry Brignull's 90 Percent of Everything covers this topic and provides a large amount of examples of these dirty tricks. If this kind of stuff interests you at all, I strong recommend this piece. Crtl+F the following quote to skip Apple's hidden settings.

    To put it another way, Dark Patterns are often conversion rate optimisation projects that have gone wrong because of an unhealthy working environment.

The problem is, they work. The like on facebook pop ups work. The wikipedia "donate now" banner works. The subscribe to see content works. And when you have to deliver numbers to your boss and the incompetent micromanager who knows nothing about web or user experience only sees 3 new signups this week, you are required to do something.

No web developer or designer wants to include these things. Most just want to make a beautiful site that people visit. Most actually like it to be as functional and neat and have all the proper hierarchy and navigation and organization. These are the things designers jack off to every night.

But the ones managing the project - the bosses, the number crunches, the marketing team, the sales team - they don't care. We are now at a point that these pop ups are widespread enough that even the most technically incompetent boss sees them when he visits "6 Ways to Make Your Team Work Longer and Harder without Paying Them More" links. And then he prints out the page, walks it to the web design team, and says, "why aren't we doing this?"

The only way to fix this issue is to (1) make them not work as well or (2) shame them excessively until it's in bad taste to have these lightboxes.





veen  ·  4034 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I've seen that Brignull piece before! Some of those examples are so damn infuriating.

    The problem is, they work.

That's what I realized a while ago. The tricks work. Ads work. And I hate them for that. I see them mostly as passive conditioning, slowly occupying my mind with materialistic products that I never asked for. Screw the Joneses, I'm tired of keeping up with them.

But on the other hand, so many great content creators and websites live off ads that it would be foolish to abolish them. I just can't fathom that this is the best money making model we have. There is a problem with your business model if you have to resort to dirty tricks like these to get people to respond. Maybe they're just poorly managed, but I think it is more likely that there is something structurally wrong.

    The only way to fix this issue is to (1) make them not work as well or (2) shame them excessively until it's in bad taste to have these lightboxes.

I hope that someone will create an extension similar to Adblock to get rid of them. It's either that, or waiting for someone to screw their site up so badly that it will have a large impact. Maybe if Wikipedia slips up or something.