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theadvancedapes  ·  3977 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The End of Biological Reproduction?

    Fantastic paper.

Thanks! I appreciate it.

    I have come to similar conclusions about cultural evolution vs biological evolution

Yes, it does seem quite intuitive, the difficult part was working it into modern evolutionary theory, as this certainly would represent a novel phenomena in evolutionary history.

    the average person still operates under the biological evolution framework

Yes, although I think we see the beginning of an exponential decline with the generation born between 1980-2000.

    the uneducated are still over-reproducing and those subpopulations will out-reproduce the educated ones.

Yes, this is tremendously interesting point. But I think the key comes with a few major trends. First, many people who are uneducated and and over-reproducing are doing so because of massive income inequality. However, I feel that in the not-too-distant future, perhaps 2020s, most of the developed world will have implemented a universal basic income (UBI) - or something quite similar to a UBI. This should alleviate many of the stresses and strains that come from massive poverty - and will break the cycle of poverty that many currently live in today. Once people are are freed from the stresses of worrying about how to make ends meet with rent/water/food - there will be a major opportunity for them to do something with their lives - because I believe most humans are intelligent and inherently creative if their base-level needs are met.

    I teach high school biology (I actually use some of your blogs in my AP class) and I get to directly witness just how few of the students care about their education or improving their minds.

This is interesting - but to be honest with you - I was one of those kids. I didn't care about anything in high school. You could make the point that the modern education system is not set up in the way that it should be - and that it needs a fundamental re-design. But beyond that - all of those kids that are just goofing off in your class - could also go on to become intelligent and successful adults in the 20s and 30s. Their lack of caring about improving their mind could just be a result of them being young and not ready to take on the work load required of modern cultural life.

    MANY people who do not see the advantage of the investment in knowledge.

I think we should also be careful to recognize that - at least in the Life History framework I proposed in the paper - this is not necessarily about investment in knowledge - but rather a shift in energy towards current cultural reproduction over current biological reproduction. This cultural reproduction could come in any form - including wanting to just party all the time instead of settling down and having kids. The point is that - if the effects of aging are slowed and reversed - then the logic to reproduce biologically will simply evaporate. Will some people do it? Maybe, sure. But the vast majority won't. We'll see a world where the average fertility rate drops below 1 (which it already has in 3 countries).

    we cannot allow all these people to go jobless and homeless or perish. So will we end up with a nationwide reflection of what I see in my school where the few that are educated are dwarfed by the uneducated?

No, our societies are massively productive. We don't need everyone to be hyper-educated (although you could make the argument that everyone will be when we get brain-interface devices). Either way - as we progress throughout the 21st century - governments will be forced to ensure that all of their citizens have their basic needs met as computers (both AI and robotics) start to take all of the industrial and service sector jobs.

    What do we do with all those people?

If the Global Brain comes to be - it will be a completely different society. It will be one where no one will necessary have to work. You can choose to work if you want - and if you don't want to - you can do anything else you want. You can enjoy your life. That is the ultimate point of all of this industrial productivity. I highly recommend this paper - would love to hear your thoughts.