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lil  ·  3823 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Springtime In Tiananmen Square, 1989

If you were too young to remember Tiananmen Square, read this article posted by camarillobrillo.

Regarding her students, the author writes:

    Two things stood out in what they shared: They were far more disappointed than hopeful, and they were fed up with feeling that way. Their frustration was compounded by material want, to be sure, but their yearning for a better life extended beyond the mere desire for personal advancement. Beneath their many complaints lingered the shadow of idealism—a sense that the political situation in their country should, and even might, change for the better. In retrospect, I know their simmering restlessness was shared by students and professors across Beijing’s campuses, and it would soon come to a boil.

and then:

    It was a massacre. Most of the carnage occurred not in the Square or right around it, but in the western-approaching streets that led to the Square. I viewed the videotapes of bloody bodies that came in with camera crews, and I made phone calls to local hospitals and to the Chinese Red Cross. We kept a running tally of the number of dead, which had reached 2,600 before everyone was ordered to stop talking to us.

Recently I read that the events of Tiananmen Square are mostly wiped from history and not part of the consciousness of students today.

Do you remember the Kent State Shootings, when the National Guard shot four students? Imagine that horrible event multiplied by 100 or 1000. No one knows how many were actually killed.





b_b  ·  3823 days ago  ·  link  ·  

My fear for the coming decade is that Tiananmen Redux is on the horizon. How can you avoid repeating history when you don't even know what it is?

ButterflyEffect  ·  3823 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I wasn't even alive for Tienanmen Square, so all I can learn is what I can read and watch. This was a great article, and provided some background I never learned when it was covered in high school.

While it's not surprising that this isn't something that Chinese students learn about, it is surprising that their attitude toward the event - and in turn towards protesting - is so negative.

What was it like being a Western outsider looking in when all of this unfolded?

lil  ·  3823 days ago  ·  link  ·  

bfx - it was so exciting when it started. Every day, more and more students joined the protests in Tienanmen Square. There was talk of democracy. I recall the time well in spring 1989. My daughter had taught herself to read by the time she was four. We received a morning paper at the time and I recall her strapped into her car seat reading the headlines and sounding out the words. "Ten Thousand Students Protest in Tien-an-men Square"

and then the massacre and chaos, people fleeing, hiding, totally crushing the movement.

    What was it like being a Western outsider looking in when all of this unfolded?

From elation to despair and helplessness.

I continually have students from China now, but most are too young to remember. I'll mention it though to my next class, see what they say.

I visited Tiananmen Square in 2007. It's an enormous space, six times bigger than Cairo's Tahrir Square. This will give you some idea of its comparative size.