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user-inactivated  ·  3807 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Samantha Allen has quit games journalism

I can't imagine any circumstance that I would would make a public remark like that about a colleague getting a job ... and that I wouldn't be called out for being unprofessional.





JackTheBandit  ·  3807 days ago  ·  link  ·  

the majority of my problem with this scenario among other things. I choose to simply not get involved because both sides of this fence are extremely argumentative, just talking at each other instead of to each other. There's no development to made operating from that perspective.

user-inactivated  ·  3807 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That's exactly how I feel.

There's never going to be a consensus, and videogames won't be taken seriously until debate can be handled maturely by either side.

That being said, and as psulli says, that was a very unprofessional tweet, and an unprofessional move. It's not her fault, really it's the fact that journalism and gaming are way too intertwined together. It's too casually handled, and there's no style-guide for game journalists to follow and practice. News editors whoop and holler at conferences when new games are announced, swag is freely given and taken. etc. etc. You would never, ever see this sort of bullshit with BBC writers, for example.

In the end, though it's shitty that Allen didn't get the job, that's for sure, and it does nothing to improve an already misogynistic, shitty culture. But I think pushback is occurring, and that's a good thing. I think any discussion is good discussion, especially as people are uncomfortable with the discussion. Hopefully as time passes, we'll get less characters that look like Mr. T, have guns for arms, and speak in not-very-well-done ebonics...

and more characters like Lee from the Walking Dead.

user-inactivated  ·  3807 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It is a difficult subject. Game journalism is a horrible landscape at the moment. RPS has the saplings of some game industry coverage with some diversity starting to take root there.

I have to say frickin' bless Anita Sarkeesian for moving the ball forward. She is simply illustrating that video games and their coverage are sexist and anti-feminist. It is crazy that that act should even have to be considered brave. But it is.

And there is very little diversity showing ground up from the pro players. There are a few women/transgender pro players, but for the most part that is still boys club.

I do get it, though. Flaming out in public can be satisfying ... for a bit. Especially if there is no perceived path to success.

But the loss the industry will experience if she stays quits is not so satisfying. But perhaps that bright people like Allen even gravitate away from an industry spawned in creating echoes of ethos, pathos, and angst from a nation whose history is:

de jure slave nation->de jure apartheid nation->de facto apartheid nation

... when ex-slave (in theory) got to vote before women did in said nation.

I think, however, that, Samantha Allen should still stick it out. She could maybe offer congrats to the colleague while suggesting next time she should be hiring him.

Shit is changing.

longstocking  ·  3807 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It is changing, you're right. I see things getting better all the time - but then I am very bluntly pulled back down to earth with the reality of things such as this still happening. There is indeed something admirable in sticking it out, but I am very familiar with the internal conversation that happens when thinking about that: is it worth it? Do I care about this so much that I would put my own well-being and potential safety below making a minuscule dent on a demographic that very clearly doesn't want me in the first place? It is part of the reason why I don't use Twitter or for that matter have much of a web presence at all. It's exhausting enough having internalized stereotype threat and imposter syndrome to the point of being silent, let alone having so many others confirm as much to be their ultimatum. I can't say I blame anyone for being upset at that.

user-inactivated  ·  3807 days ago  ·  link  ·  

What I want to see is a blog / website / magazine that has the same pull as bomb cast, but with primarily female writers.

longstocking  ·  3807 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It is one thing to be called out for lack of professionalism, but that isn't what is happening here. This is mass ad hominem from the lowest of the low for an individual making a comment about the disappointing continued homogeneity of an already exclusive and pandering industry. Regardless of her history with Giant Bomb, the comment does not in any context justify responses such as:

... and this is only the tip of the iceberg of toxic reactions I could find. To compare first and foremost her conduct in lieu of her detractors' feels very disingenuous.

JackTheBandit  ·  3807 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's still like the point I was trying to make: There's no development to made operating from that perspective. We're talking about a culture that has a very strong component of intentional verbal/visual/mental abuse (trolling.) The strength of the trolling behavior provides the perfect shield for pure ignorance as well as obtaining a successful angry reaction. To this day, I have not seen a method of dealing with this component other than simply not engaging it at all, "do not feed the trolls." The catch-22 here is that if you respond with negative frustrated feelings, you're always going to lose because that's what charges their batteries.

What has a far better chance of pushing progress is like what psulli mentioned. Those that have the issue build the version they want to see. You can't force people to see the light, but you can facilitate it.