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I agree with almost all of that except to say that: 1) When the Admins said they wouldn't ban anybody for hate speech (I had some hateful trolls that were trying to googlebomb a friend as a child molester) I'd point out that /r/stormfront was banned and had been since 2007. They never said a word. 2) those same trolls are the ones behind /r/GreatApes so the cycle of life is complete. Some of 'em show up here every now and then... they're actually quite civilized.