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comment by organicAnt

Yes, industrial agriculture is the lazy, unsustainable way of feeding large amounts of people in the short run. But the side effects of fertility depletion and top soil erosion are the obvious alarm bells that industrial mono-cultures cannot be the way of feeding everyone in the future. Decentralizing the production of food and encouraging more local, sustainable land management and agriculture is the way to feed a growing population, as a UN study has found. As for the diet of the future, UN urges global move to meat and dairy-free diet.





kleinbl00  ·  3777 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Not that simple. Lots of industrial farms are switching to no-till which eliminates all your concerns.

organicAnt  ·  3777 days ago  ·  link  ·  

How does no till solve the problem of mono-culture depletion of soil fertility?

kleinbl00  ·  3777 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It doesn't, but then neither does rotation. Rotation diminishes the problem but considering modern agriculture of any appropriately-scaled quantity is heavily dependent on intensive practices and petroleum-based enrichment, supplementation is a given.

organicAnt  ·  3776 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Who mentioned rotation? Did you read the UN report?

Exactly, scale is part of the issue. More farmers and people growing more in their own back/front yard is part of the solution. Until we figure out a way of creating a closed loop of nutrients, supplementation will always be an issue. Some even argue that we've broken the nutrient look by flushing human waste down the toilet. But that's a whole different discussion that brings up its own issues.

kleinbl00  ·  3776 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Me, more than 4 months ago: "it's not that simple."

You, yesterday:

    Decentralizing the production of food and encouraging more local, sustainable land management and agriculture is the way to feed a growing population

Me, yesterday: "it's not that simple."

You, yesterday: "how does your simple solution address this complex problem I bring up?"

Me, yesterday: "it's not that simple."

You, today: "did you read this study I linked in response to your dead comment from four months ago?"

Dude - It's not that simple. And you know what? I'm not your audience. And you know what else? It's impolite to pick a fight with 4 month old comments so you can bludgeon me into reading a UN report. You can now officially fuck off.

organicAnt  ·  3776 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Haha, that has obviously hit a nerve.

My audience?! You seemed to be so self-assured and knowledgeable in the subject of food production that's why I engaged with your conversation. I'm not sure what the age of the thread has to do with anything. It sounds like a cop-out to avoid the discussion.

I'm sorry to hear that you confused a grown up discussion of facts with "picking a fight". As for your last comment, it says all I need to know about you. Take care.