a thoughtful web.
Good ideas and conversation. No ads, no tracking.   Login or Take a Tour!
comment by kleinbl00
kleinbl00  ·  4688 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Can we have a feature to ignore particular hubs?
There isn't a better name because there's a history and lineage to tags. They are what they are. The reason they aren't "tags" on Reddit is because tags are uncurated. Subreddits are curated. someone is ultimately responsible for what gets assigned to that topic.

It definitely makes tags more ephemeral, more dynamic and more fluid. That's a good thing.

The problem is that in hubski, you have built a social network based on friendship and affinity without recognizing that "common interests" are one of the fundamental basics of friendship. People meet their friends through church, through hobbies, through shared addiction, through all sorts of commonality. If I were to meet Gary Cobain on the street I'd probably want to hit him. But since I'm a big, big fan of the Future Sound of London, I'm likely to extend him a lot of rope as far as his opinions and viewpoints. Likewise, I really like hearing what David Bowie has to say about stuff, which makes me more interested in his music - I stopped listening to Laibach and Echo and the Bunnymen cold having mixed them and interacted with them in person. They're assholes, but you wouldn't know that from listening to their music. (well, Laibach maybe)

You see "tag" and think "subject" or "category." I see "tag" and I think "interest." Do you really think members of a model railroad club would hang out together if they didn't have the HO vs N rivalry to tie them together? This expectation isn't related to "tags" it's related to human nature.

Both eHarmony and Match.com use the Meyers-Briggs personality test to get their matches. Here's the interesting part: eHarmony matches people with similar profiles. Match.com matches people with opposing profiles. They both seem to work. Personality only takes you so far, though. What do you have in common?

This stuff matters. Hate the word "tag" all you like but recognize that you didn't include it out of obligation, but out of societal necessity.





mk  ·  4688 days ago  ·  link  ·  
someone is ultimately responsible for what gets assigned to that topic.

I suppose that is the other deliberate experiment here: How much can we avoid top-down curation?

I see what you are saying about interests. Just thinking out loud, perhaps some sort of option is rather than followers slicing up a user's posts, maybe posters can purposefully create subchannels for partial subscription. A user might be allowed a finite number, they can name them, and there you go... Following would give the default option of the total hub, but you could follow a subhub instead. Hm. Something to think on.

kleinbl00  ·  4688 days ago  ·  link  ·  
>I suppose that is the other deliberate experiment here: How much can we avoid top-down curation?

I would aim for 100% and consider it a failure if it's any less than 99.999%. Curation belongs on blogs.

>I see what you are saying about interests. Just thinking out loud, perhaps some sort of option is rather than followers slicing up a user's posts, maybe posters can purposefully create subchannels for partial subscription.

This really is a semantic issue, not a philosophical one. I just don't see being able to ignore one aspect of a person's interests to be "slicing up a user's posts." I don't much care to discuss politics with my father-in-law, but I eagerly listen to anything he has to say about orchids. That doesn't mean I'm not 100% committed to him as a "friend" it just means he has interests other than my own. Likewise, I'm interested to hear what anyone has to say about orchids, regardless of how well I know them - and maybe, through affinity to orchids, I'll discover we have other things in common.

You see "fragment." I see "aspect."