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kleinbl00  ·  3657 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The Philae has landed! (We landed on a comet. +1 for humans)

    I'm not suggesting the human race lacks the diversity, ingenuity, manpower and initiative to explore space and help the world. Far from it. Mankind merely lacks the will to do so. And that's disgusting.

So what have you done?

Because the only reason we're having this discussion is we're all sitting around going "yay comet" and you come in all "boo hiss comet think of the children." Okay, let's think of the children.

My father has helped to ensure that nuclear power and nuclear deterrence has propagated throughout the world without nuclear terrorism or nuclear accidents. Let's think of the children.

My best friends' father has helped to ensure that the quest for knowledge continues unabated for public consumption so that people like Neil DeGrasse Tyson have something to talk about. Let's think of the children.

Me? I make reality television for a living. I'm literally Hitler. But I also put a social worker through grad school so that's not nuthin'.

Be the change you want in the world. Instead of sitting around pissing on everyone else's parade because we want to celebrate scientific advancement, go enroll with AmeriCorps or the Peace Corps or hell - go collect quarters for UNICEF. You're not doing anything here and now to improve the situation one iota, you're just pissing others off (and we get a bye - we're here to revel, not to think of the children).

Because you know what? Whipping out Tito and the Stasi in a discussion about technology spinoffs just makes you look reactionary and uneducated.

"As far as I'm concerned."





Lintel  ·  3657 days ago  ·  link  ·  

So what have you done?

-Living in a forest and guarding/surveilling it 24/7 for 7 months in order to protect an area of 300km2 of woods and forests; which were to be cut down illegally in order to install a highly polluting incinerator. Try and do that yourself when your nadgers are freezing off. -Protecting highly fertile acres of agricultural lands which would have been paved over in order ro make 'room' for an aeroport (the fact that there's an other aeroport a few miles away which hasn't even reached peak-capacity). Cops who just have nothing better to do than 'follow orders' and start bashing some skulls. Want to know more? Do some research on Notre-Dame-des-Landes, and you'll find out what I'm talking about. -Trying to protect some areas of natural wildlife for my children and children's children, only to have a friend getting slaughtered by cops (see Remi Fraisse, Barrage de Sivens). -Apart from volunteering in order to give until-very-recently homeless people a set of lodgings, clothes, furniture, etc etc free of charge in order for them to make their life better than before, working with abused and maltreated adolescents who are so messed up emotionally you couldn't handle their life for a day. You try to get a kid back on a stable emotional plane when his dad raped him, then killed his mom before his eyes. Good luck. -I help build eco-houses on a voluntary basis.

So yeah, I have been doing something to leave this a better planet for my children. What about you? Again, kudos for your father and friends father. There should be more people like them. Then we'd be in a lot less trouble as a species. Don't get upset when I come with counter-arguments for your Cold War pissing contest; it was okay to drag it in the discussion to prove your point when it came to wound-plasters but as soon as I pointed out the darker sides of that, I'm reactionary? So you put a social worker through grad school: good work, there should be more people who do that, I mean that.

And making reality tv for a living... well, this comes to mind

kleinbl00  ·  3656 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I don't know why I expected any different, but your contribution to the world has been squatting in a forest to prevent public works. In essence, you are of the opinion that you know better than everybody else, that the best way to fix the system is to break the system.

And then to top it off with a 3 minute rant suggesting I kill myself. Yeah, we're done here.

Lintel  ·  3656 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Nope, they were private factories profiting from public forests, public subsidies and public funding. For a 100% PRIVATE profit.

And the best way to fix this system is to not participate in the system but to abandon it altogether. Don't know if I know better than everybody else. I try to leave this planet in a better shape than I found it.

Apparently you haven't read the other 'contributions' as you call them but you've made your mind up already eh? RTFR and then get back to me. Btw, weren't YOU the one who called himself 'literally Hitler'? I'm not suggesting you kill yourself; I do however agree with his remark that people like that are filling the world with garbage.