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no-cheating  ·  3661 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Becoming a vegan. Where to start?

    I believe that the suffering of humans is of an order of magnitude more important than any suffering an animal could go through.
That part really makes me wonder how insensitive to animal suffering people can be. Even if you only consider the physical pain. This is something that most human beings are very afraid of and try to eliminate it from our society almost completely, while leaving billions animals annually to suffer the pains of terrible amounts . Do you really think that animals don't feel the pain or feel it different than we do? In fact we are just another animal. Do you really think that it is alright if a one cow at a 10,000 is skinned alive and concious, just so the costs of meat could be reduced by few cents?




user-inactivated  ·  3661 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm upset at a cow being killed in a horrific way. I don't care as much as a human being killed in a horrific way. I'm sure that a pig feels pain just like a human. I disagree that we are "just another animal."

no-cheating  ·  3661 days ago  ·  link  ·  

If we are just another animal is more a philosophic kind of question I don't aspire to answer. Still it's easy to see that we are an animal and we have a lot in common with them. And even if you consider human suffering more important than animals', consider the amounts. There are around 60 billions land animals killed every year, that is 10 times more there are people living. Not every human on Earth is suffering dramatic conditions, while more than 90% of those animals do.

user-inactivated  ·  3661 days ago  ·  link  ·  

We are animals, to be sure. I disagree on the idea that that gives us the same worth as all other species. I would argue that any number of animals suffering does not have the same worth as human suffering.

no-cheating  ·  3660 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Do you mean to imply that one human suffering will always be worth than any number of animal suffering? That would make animal suffering worthless forever.

user-inactivated  ·  3660 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I don't think that would make animal suffering worthless, just that it would be worth less.