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user-inactivated  ·  3516 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Silk Road's Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison

I'm simultaneously conservative and liberal on drugs. What is certainly true is that the issue is far more complex than the media, Ulbricht's supporters and everyone in between make it out to be.

However, I'm definitely worried about the practical side of this result. Silk Road was in a utilitarian way probably a good thing, because ... drugs will out. Removing the human element from the selling is a start. I'm glad Ulbricht is going to jail, because it turns out that he was a fucked up semi-sociopath. But the corresponding indictment of the online drug trade is scary. I don't think most drugs should be legal or particularly accessible, but Silk Road was a step up on the status quo. This case represents the sort of shortsighted attitude that makes Erowid persona non grata for significant funding and recognition.

in the end Ulbricht went to jail for the wrong reasons, maybe because the hit man situation blew over and I missed it, or maybe because of some legalistic thing. Oh well.





camarillobrillo  ·  3516 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You really hit the nail on the head. It's a bit naive to think that darknets end drug violence on anything more than a street dealer level. They're still going through most of the fucked up cartel channels after all, just a little detour at the end. It's a step in the right direction for sure. And you'll never destroy Silk Road like you'll never destroy Napster.

I think it's simple. Illegal drugs and hitmen? That's the CIA's job. They don't like competition.

I'm not a crackpot I'm just saying the industries currently in legal control of these commodities will do whatever they can to stop thugs (let's face it the guy's a thug) from changing the status quo.

insomniasexx  ·  3516 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I was just thinking about the hitman thing. What happened with that?

I assume something to do with the corrupt investigators? There were too many stories for me to follow throughout this entire shitstorm.

user-inactivated  ·  3516 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah my guess is it was thrown out or some equivalent. Those charges were always much more tenuous than the drug stuff, though morally more relevant.

_refugee_  ·  3516 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Dude guys it was thrown out because he was basically framed for the hit man thing. One undercover cop pretended to be a hit man and another undercover cop was the guy Ross said to kill. There was no real attempt at murder there. There's all sora of ethics violations that the undercover cops involved in the investigation committed. In a typical demonstration of our justice system those homicide counts were really mostly thrown on in an attempt to discredit him in the eyes of the public and the media and make it easier to ensure he got time for the actual 'crimes' he committed - law enforcement always loads up on charges for indictments because it gives them a better position at the bargaining table and in court.

user-inactivated  ·  3515 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Okay. Entrapment? Did he send the texts that we all read? I get that legally entrapment excuses him from a lot of things but I've always thought it was a good way of discovering someone's morals.

OftenBen  ·  3514 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?