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comment by lelibertaire

Racist shoots up historically black church in Charleston, South Carolina. People notice the Confederate Flag flies over the South Carolina statehouse and demand its removal. Threats and critique of the flag draw our supporters and opponents to debate. Today, South Carolina's government voted to take the flags down because "they belong in a museum!"

You can still be paying attention to all the important things while this is going on. Taking that flag down won't alleviate all racial tension, but it's surely a good move. It only represents pride to a small portion of people. It represents a lot more to most others.

I'm from the South, but I'm fine with it becoming a social stigma. But I've never understood flying that flag, even as a kid.





TheVenerableCain  ·  3443 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thanks! I guess my followup question would be "why didn't we do that after the Confederacy lost?" I assume something to do with the states having a bit of rebellion still and the Union not being able or willing to go down to enforce it. You'd think someone would've had an issue with it before now.

user-inactivated  ·  3443 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That flag wasn't actually used to represent the confederacy while the confederacy existed; it was rejected. It got popular during World War 2, because units made up of southerners liked to fly it to represent their southerness. Then the Dixicrats picked it up, and it started getting flown at state houses and incorporated into flags.

lelibertaire  ·  3443 days ago  ·  link  ·  

See, I explain it like this:

I've never liked the flag because of what it represents to me. But, as you alluded to, it was a such a small issue. There was no point in bringing it up, especially in the South, because the "heritage not hate, pride not racism" crowd would defend it and it'd just end up wasting energy.

The shooting put the flag in the political crossfire. The timing allowed people to critique the flag and actually win the political battle. Politicians don't look good defending it right now, really cause there isn't a very good defense of it.

I actually think people in S.C. have been trying to get it taken down for months. The shooting just gave them the political momentum.

As to why it's stuck around. Well that's a lot of history about reconstruction and the Jim Crow era South. But you're on the right track.