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dingus  ·  3410 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: How Google could rig the 2016 election

Why does that even matter? It should be obvious to anyone with half a brain that it's possible to manipulate votes with social media. Now, I doubt google would be able to do this -- it would require the silence of hundreds of employees at the minimum -- but it should at least make you second-guess putting all of your trust into these black boxes like facebook and google. Personally I don't put any trust in them.





user-inactivated  ·  3410 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You're right, it's never important to know the backgrounds, possible motivations of people writing news articles or "science" papers. Sorry about that. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.

dingus  ·  3410 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The bias is pretty obvious, but just because an article is biased doesn't mean you should dismiss the issue.

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deepflows  ·  3409 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That was actually a pretty rude "reply"...

What dingus said is entirely correct.

Yes, we should take an author's background and possible external motivations into account. But if the contents of a piece are factually correct, they ought to be treated as such.

user-inactivated  ·  3409 days ago  ·  link  ·  

edit: sorry, that was harsh, you didn't deserve that. To provide context: that's not the first time that person has been negative in comments and posts I've been in. In this comment thread, I fully acknowledged that it is possible to influence voting results, to influence behavior, and that this is a scientifically tested phenomenon. What I questioned is 1) why this paper was focusing on Google specifically and 2) the poor quality of the paper itself. So I did research first on the author, then did research on the peer review process of the site the paper was hosted on, and found that the author of the paper was biased, and there was no way to verify the validity of the paper. The paper was also badly presented. I then did further research, and found that the author of this badly presented paper has had a history of bad blood with Google, and therefore the way this paper was phrased just didn't sit right with me. If the paper had been about search engines in general, and hadn't included Google in the title, while I still would've been dismayed by the poor presentation and scientific flaws, I wouldn't have questioned it so heavily.

So then some user comes along, making the jump to conclusions assumption that I was dismissing one of the premises of the linked paper: that influencing voting behavior by a search engine is possible. Which I never had done. I.e.: I said things, someone made generalized assumptions about the things I'd said, turned it into absolutism, and was acting like I was wrong, which made no sense.

And now I give up trying to have a rational conversation with anyone else in this thread. Have a lovely day.

galen  ·  3409 days ago  ·  link  ·  
user-inactivated  ·  3409 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Not sure if that was directed at me or someone else. If at me: please tell me where in this comment thread I said that it's not possible for a search engine to skew data in order to influence election results. If it was not directed at me: my apologies.

galen  ·  3409 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I was pretty much reinforcing dingus's comment since you responded with such vitriol.

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