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yotta  ·  4584 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Are Memes Art?
    To me, the most interesting part of memes is definitely their dissemination.

    . . .

    But to me, the fascinating part is how something becomes a meme in the first place. . .

I don't understand. Isn't this a contradiction?





stanford  ·  4584 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Seems to me newgameplus is fascinated by the life cycle of a "meme", which also fascinates me.

It's obvious that a meme can't exist in a vacuum, it needs replication to survive. This is similar to some of the street art, as newgameplus points out. Because of this, I do see a parallel between some street art a and internet memes. Both are just extensions of marketing, which imo has become the most finely tuned art form in the world. Marketing is where the most talented artists get pulled and we are left with a bunch of lazy, less ambitious "artists" creating memes and other nonsense. There was a time when an artist worked for years to hone his craft. This "time" still exists, it just migrated to Madison ave.

yotta  ·  4584 days ago  ·  link  ·  
    marketing, which imo has become the most finely tuned art form in the world.

This is really interesting to me. I have always classified marketing as design, which I think of as part engineering and part art.

newgameplus  ·  4584 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Oops, sorry, you're right. What I meant was the initial dissemination of the original joke, image macro, video or what-have-you that changes it into a meme. Personally I choose to blame this gaffe on the internet's overzealous use of the term "meme" to refer to any captioned image, thus confusing things in my head. Shame on you internet.