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ooli  ·  3320 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: AI Takes Historic Match Against Go Champ With Third Straight Win

You mean like a calculator resolving equation with negligeable failure rate to send men to the moon?

Of course computers are great tool.





user-inactivated  ·  3320 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah but you're only trying to go to the moon once. If you're trying to save 1000 patients, one Apollo-13 level fuckup is acceptable.

ooli  ·  3319 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I didtnt want to speak about failure rate.

My point was that the Jeopardy AI just help real medical student get a better diagnostic.

Like a calculator help (without mistake) calculating an equation. Both are not AI . They are more or less powerful tool, helping human by reducing the amount of useless data we have to process to diagnose a patient, or calculate a trajectory.

Talking about AI when talking about Jeopardy, Deep Blue, or Alpha go, is just marketing. Without human intervention, AlphaGo will never be able to learn to play Chess, or Magic the Gathering. It's a very good tool, once it is properly used. Like your 80's calculators.. which at least helped get to the moon, while AlphaGo just help labeling " chimps" on your phone's pictures:

user-inactivated  ·  3319 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well, yes and no.

    My point was that the Jeopardy AI just help real medical student get a better diagnostic.

For now. Eventually the plan is for Winston or whatever it was called to be able to do the medical student's job with no oversight at about a thousand times the speed.

    Without human intervention, AlphaGo will never be able to learn to play Chess, or Magic the Gathering

Yeah. But -- correct me if I'm wrong -- the people who designed AlphaGo could not sit down and beat Lee at Go. AI will impact history in phases. We are at a phase where it can't do anything without human implementation. Most people think we will leave this phase behind soon.

So in one sense, calling something AI when it's just following instructions is misleading. But in another, if its instructions allow it to surpass its creators at its given function, what other word would you use?