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AnSionnachRua  ·  2759 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Barack Obama's $400,000 speaking fees reveal what few want to admit

    I got called wishy-washy so many times when conversations came up about him, because I would talk about things he did that I thought were awful and things about him that I thought were great, and people really wanted me to pick one side or the other and stick with it.

This attitude seems to be really common. I've had a few discussions with close friends recently who feel as you do, and we all agree that whenever we voice any kind of "in-between" position, or just talk about the good and the bad in equal measure, that people tend to view it as sitting on the fence and not picking a side, as if life is supposed to be as simple as a game of football.





dublinben  ·  2759 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Most people are staunch partisans, above all else. If you do anything to challenge the black and white, team-based nature of politics, it is seen as a personal attack against their fundamental beliefs. It's why moderates or centrists receive a double helping of scorn from each party.

The only thing more threatening to a Democrat than a Republican, is someone who challenges their two-party oligarchy.

kleinbl00  ·  2759 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Maybe fifteen years back Jon Stewart pointed out that politics is dominated by extremists because most people have better shit to do with their time.

I think it's fair to say that most people are disinterested above all else. The people who are interested are generally interested tribally - it's rare you find someone who likes to watch sports but has no favorite teams.

user-inactivated  ·  2758 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Maybe fifteen years back Jon Stewart pointed out that politics is dominated by extremists because most people have better shit to do with their time.

Where do you think Bernie Sanders fits into this?

kleinbl00  ·  2758 days ago  ·  link  ·  

For fifteen years he was the only self-professed Socialist in a government of Democrats and Republicans. He's as extremist as they come.

user-inactivated  ·  2758 days ago  ·  link  ·  

So, it wasn't that people's policies were extremist but their views on things? That makes sense, now that I think about it. Many people of both parties (haven't seen much Dems, though) are utterly stubborn about the way things are supposed to be done all around the board.