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comment by ButterflyEffect

How is that a cheap shot? I honestly don't think either should be closed. They're incredibly different things, you're right, but should one or the other be closed? No, is my opinion.





kleinbl00  ·  2487 days ago  ·  link  ·  

How is it not a cheap shot? We're discussing things that are inherently dangerous, like caves that eat boy scouts or mountains called "killer mountain" and here you are all drawing fucking national parks into the equation.

ButterflyEffect  ·  2487 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That had no relation to whatever argument this is nor was it a (intended) cheap shot. Nature should be open and the topic was on my mind considering other countries are adding national parks while we're subtracting.

kleinbl00  ·  2487 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Then why bring it up? It's like discussing whether or not chefs should be allowed to cook blowfish sushi and then saying "and also I think everyone should be allowed to eat salmon, even though the President hates it."

Nobody here is discussing closing national parks. You're leading with "responsible mountaineer" and including within that solution space "keep national parks open." My beef is that, as always, someone not quite prepared enough doesn't get rescued by a bunch of people who have to risk their lives in pursuit of picking up everyone else's slack and you gotta paint me with Bears Ears Bullshit?

If "nature should be open" then leave your fuckin' transponder at home, sporto. "Open" doesn't mean "the whole community drops everything to try and keep your ass from freezing to death because you thought the Himalayas in winter would be invigorating.

ButterflyEffect  ·  2487 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    If "nature should be open" then leave your fuckin' transponder at home, sporto. "Open" doesn't mean "the whole community drops everything to try and keep your ass from freezing to death because you thought the Himalayas in winter would be invigorating.

    false equivalency

This is going in a mean-spirited direction, I think it's best I drop it at this point.