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user-inactivated  ·  1896 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: How the baby boomers — not millennials — screwed America

I want to believe, but the cynical part of me thinks enough time is going to pass and eventually the "millenials" are going to become the asshole generation. Simply because the environment is going to get a whole lot worse, and there are right-wing trolls among the young too. New humans are going to grow up and see climate change nightmares, resource shortages, possibly an economy that has slowed to a crawl. And we'll say there was nothing I could do about it.





kleinbl00  ·  1896 days ago  ·  link  ·  
user-inactivated  ·  1895 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Some of those graphs are pretty chill but I was scrolling... Vietnam draft numbers? Is he trying to point out it wasn't as bad as we expected? I feel like at that point you're just looking for as much ammo against "boomers" as you can find.

kleinbl00  ·  1895 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The chapter is about the fact that the draft wasn't nearly as consequential in practice as it was in theory and that the perception of Vietnam veterans is different from the reality.

    Draftees vs. Volunteers:

    25% (648,500) of total forces in country were draftees. (66% of U.S. armed forces members were drafted during WWII.)

    Draftees accounted for 30.4% (17,725) of combat deaths in Vietnam.

    Reservists killed: 5,977.

    National Guard: 6,140 served; 101 died.

    Total draftees (1965-73): 1,728,344.

    Actually served in Vietnam: 38%

    Marine Corps draft: 42,633.

    Last man drafted: June 30, 1973.

    Race and Ethnic Background

    88.4% of the men who actually served in Vietnam were Caucasian; 10.6% (275,000) were black; 1% belonged to other races.

    86.3% of the men who died in Vietnam were Caucasian (includes Hispanics);

    12.5% (7,241) were black; 1.2% belonged to other races.

    170,000 Hispanics served in Vietnam; 3,070 (5.2% of total) died there.

    70% of enlisted men killed were of Northwest European descent.

    86.8% of the men who were killed as a result of hostile action were Caucasian; 12.1% (5,711) were black; 1.1% belonged to other races.

    14.6% (1,530) of non-combat deaths were among blacks.

    34% of blacks who enlisted volunteered for the combat arms.

    Overall, blacks suffered 12.5% of the deaths in Vietnam at a time when the percentage of blacks of military age was 13.5% of the total population.

    Religion of Dead:

    Protestant -- 64.4%; Catholic -- 28.9%; other/none --6.7%.

    Socio-Economic Status

    76% of the men sent to Vietnam were from lower middle/working class backgrounds.

    Three-fourths had family incomes above the poverty level; 50% were from middle income backgrounds.

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