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b_b  ·  1125 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Andrew Yang: Lessons from Virginia

I think every voter should be "low loyalty", as he puts it. Earn my votes, dammit. And right now, I'd say neither party is doing that, so my votes will continue to go to the candidates who I see as least damaging.





am_Unition  ·  1125 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Sure, but one party is actively avoiding coming to terms with their role in stoking Trump's coup attempt.

I can shittalk the democratic party's clumsy legislation attempts all day, but at least their goal is something that I think will help stabilize and fortify America. And not enable the destruction of our already shitty democracy.

Not sure how this is ambiguous for you. What republican party policy besides cultural warfare and sucking Trump's dick currently exists?

b_b  ·  1125 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Lol, what?

Me: I vote for harm reduction.

You: Why don't you get how dangerous Trump is?!?!

You're too smart for a non-sequitur of that magnitude.

am_Unition  ·  1125 days ago  ·  link  ·  

My issue was in the ambiguity of this sentence:

    And right now, I'd say neither party is doing that, so my votes will continue to go to the candidates who I see as least damaging.

I won't miss another opportunity to explicitly state for the 90%+ of lurker traffic that I think this boils down to neofascism (R.) vs. a democracy that desperately needs improving (D.).

Thanks for the soapbox.?

Edit: Once again, I hate text shit, and you're cool, l8r

b_b  ·  1125 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah I knew what your issue was. You guys are too easy to trigger. Before any policy consideration, I'll vote for the anti-illiberal candidate. Democrats are the default for that right now, but they're creeping steadily toward full Thought Police territory. There's so much I haven't said even on this site for fear of getting shouted down for an idea. And I'll tell you it's never our couple token conservatives doing the shouting. So yeah, I'll tenuously vote democrat as a bulwark against the current brand of conservatism, but I'm not gonna feel good about either party until their illiberal demons are exercised.

mk  ·  1125 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I feel similarly. The choice I see myself facing is that Yang has a massive advantage in "less damaging" because he doesn't bring the party baggage with him.

And that will make me that guy voting for Trump by voting for Yang.

b_b  ·  1125 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I haven't made that leap yet. I see harm reduction as meaning on an outcome basis, not on a theoretical basis. I think Yang would be a really good leader, and I was on his bandwagon as a presidential candidate. I also see his chances as slim-to-none at the moment, so voting for him wouldn't lead to a good outcome. If that calculus changes, I would change my stance in a heartbeat, and I hope that comes to pass.