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comment by am_Unition

Can we also reduce the compensation to something like $90k/year? It shouldn't be almost 3x the median U.S. salary. Maybe that would further help attract people who see it as a public duty instead of folks looking to profit. I know it's a demanding job, though, or it should be, so I dunno. It's actually not much of a concern, in terms of costing the taxpayer. You could fund 5,500 reps at $175k/year for less than a billion a year, which is peanuts, in the grand scheme of things, considering the benefits of expanding the House.

Abolish or at least reform the Senate, end the electoral college system, and institute an impartial algorithm to handle re-districting. I liked mk's idea about placing limits on the ratio of district perimeter to district area. Invite international oversight in making the U.S. objectively more democratic (not that American exceptionalism would ever allow for that). We can dream, right?





b_b  ·  874 days ago  ·  link  ·  

How demanding a job can it be when it’s populated by octogenarians? Byrd may have even breached 100 by the time he kicked.

kleinbl00  ·  874 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Andrew Yang argued that the salary should be raised, and that working after holding office should be banned. Put 'em on a pension and be done with it.

am_Unition  ·  872 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Although Yang has done/said some kinda boob-ish stuff in more recent years, he did have some interesting ideas.

And he wanted to institute term limits, I'm guessing?

Is there something about banning former politicians from the labor pool intended to target revolving-door-style corruption, or is it solely to offset the negative implications (at a personal level) of instituting term limits?

kleinbl00  ·  872 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think he launched a third party because the Democrats refused to take him seriously. I don't think it was the right move. He was probably four years behind Pete Buttigieg, now I'm not so sure.

Yang didn't have any problems with career politicians. He just wanted that career to be their career. His argument was that if you made the job itself pay enough that people wanted to stay in it, and that if the retirement was cushy enough that they were not permitted to lobby at all afterwards (I misspoke - he didn't require them to never work again, he wanted them to never be able to register as a lobbyist), you would get more "pure" politicians and fewer people leveraging the revolving door.

I've seen term limits come up for forty years. I've yet to see a legitimate mechanism whereby term limits could be instituted. Shit's obviously broken but even if term limits did fix it, I don't know where we'd buy the glue.

Devac  ·  874 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Maybe that would further help attract people who see it as a public duty instead of folks looking to profit.

I thought lobbying was the money-maker, not salaries.

kleinbl00  ·  874 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It is. That's the whole point. You don't spend $500k to get a $175k job, you spend $500k to get on the board of directors of Dropbox and to end up at a sweet, sweet K-street lobbying firm. Which is utterly ineffective if you cease to be the representative from Dallas and instead become the representative from 87629.

am_Unition  ·  874 days ago  ·  link  ·  

100% correct. Yes, we absolutely need to get lobbying money of politics, and you'd think it'd be a bipartisan thing, but notsomuch. Expanding the House would also help with the lobbying problem. It would complicate the logistics and reduce the amount given to each politician, making them less betrothed to lobbying interests, generally. Unless companies spent about 10x what their current lobbying budgets are. Some might?

The idea of this SCOTUS re-interpreting the Citizen's United ruling is hilarious though. sobbing intensifies

I know you know all this, but for posterity. People do apparently lurk.