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usualgerman  ·  29 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: On the Democratic Party's Cult of Powerlessness

Democrats are not doing anything because they’re captured. They take money from the same business interests and banks that the Republicans do. It’s almost a controlled opposition party— they exist to hold things in place until the next republican term. They aren’t there to do things, they barely bother to pretend to be interested in that. In fact, I’d say they’re not even really an “ideas” party. If they had ideas, they’d want to get them out. They don’t, which is why Heritage Foundation can spend millions on Right Wing media outlets, radio, TV (multiple channels), websites, and so on. Democrats had Air America, but didn’t really invest in it. So now it’s NPR, MSNBC, and Bread Tube. That’s how into getting things done they are. Podcasters, Vaush, and MSNBC and the three political shows on NPR. They don’t even believe in their message enough to bother getting it out there. The way most people find out about anything the democrats actually want to do is republicans telling them it’s bad. Completely rearguard action.





kleinbl00  ·  28 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Democrats are not doing anything because they’re captured. They take money from the same business interests and banks that the Republicans do.

I think I would temper this by arguing there's no real alternative. The 2024 elections cost $16b. Bill Gates gave $100m, Elon Musk gave $150m. Kamala Harris got 74m votes; in order to counterbalance Elon Fucking Musk every Harris voter would have needed to chip in $2. In order to counterbalance Musk & Gates, they needed to chip in 68 cents.

But now we're talking campaign finance reform and we're both already asleep with boredom.

usualgerman  ·  27 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Honestly I think part of the problem is how long the campaign is. It takes several years to run for president, and the formal kickoff is often more than a year out. People in formally elected offices basically spend 70% of their time in office preparing to campaign and actively campaigning for office. Of course they need that much money.

kleinbl00  ·  27 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I have my favorite solutions

user-inactivated  ·  27 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I love that idea so much,

I've been saying it to everyone I meet since you posted it here, gotta be almost a decade ago.

Its overwhelmingly cute and would help so much and is so doable and Nobody seems to be talking about it

kleinbl00  ·  27 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Danielle Allen did a series of ten pieces for the WaPo but they didn't exactly set the world afire.

I'll say this: WA state does jungle primaries, which helped contribute to outcomes like this:

Our Trump-annointed gubernatorial candidate was Semi Bird, who walked out of the primary with 11% of the vote (even though the Republicans had registered five candidates with the same name as the Democratic candidate). The most contentious and expensive race in Washington was for Commissioner of Public Lands, primarily because the Republican who was running was a big timber shill who got primaried for impeaching Trump.

EDIT: hot off the presses

am_Unition  ·  27 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I do not trust Gluesenkamp Perez. I can't remember what she did or said years ago that first raised my warning flags, but the recent banana peeling claims are another questionable installment. Honestly I get Paulina-Luna vibes from her. If you have to be a pandering liar to get elected, again, curtains for democracy. Speaking of which, I'll get back to you about the information environment in that other thread soon. Have a good Monday bro(s).

user-inactivated  ·  29 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I genuinely don't know what the Dems want to do.

Kamala's climate change policy was some of the most baffling word salad I've ever had to read. It seemed like every week they shifted positions or compromised on something I figured was a core Dem value.

Doesn't matter either way cuz they lost in a landslide lol

usualgerman  ·  28 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think the first step to getting the party back on track is to invest in getting the message out there. Have a network or three on the radio or TV, have news sites, etc that can explain what the ideas are and why they work and where they’ve actually done good things. Start talking about your ideas.

And when you do something TELL THE PEOPLE. It’s like the democrats almost want it to be top secret. I’ve had this conversation a few times with conservatives convinced there’s a conspiracy to poison Americans with additives in foods. Exhibit A is that a lot of things that are common in American food are not in European foods. So the government is obviously trying to kill us, population control and so on. No, the European Union is simply much more willing to ban poison from their foods than our FDA is. So this would be an excellent thing for democrats to be actually talking about and making the case for smart regulations to protect people. They’re generally MIA. And the same is true of other things. The infrastructure bill Biden passed is building lots of highways. Not one will have any sort of signage telling people that this is the infrastructure bill at work making roads better.

kleinbl00  ·  28 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Which, again, comes down to capitalism. When your rule of law belongs to the highest bidder, you end up Republican Lite at best.

user-inactivated  ·  28 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah totally. Everything feels hopeless

kleinbl00  ·  28 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Dawg, I feel you. I feel you bone deep.

But I was politically conscious for Mondale

Dukakis

Gore

And Kerry

And once we get through the circular firing squad we get to do it all over again

user-inactivated  ·  28 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think before investing on getting a message out, they should have one to begin with. I actively sought out what their platform is and as far as I can tell they don't have one

usualgerman  ·  26 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I agree. But until you have a message you believe in and are willing to put out far and wide without apologizing for having an agenda. Look at the GOP — they believe in stupid things, but I guarantee you that everyone reading my words can absolutely tell you what the6 want to do and why they want to do that. The words are repeated in every organ of the GOP, every radio show, every news organ, every podcast, every white paper issued by a GOP think tank all have a message. And because they have that message and actually not only believe in that vision but are absolutely committed to it. I don’t think I could make the same bet on the democratic side. They have no vision of government, of culture, or why they think that. The democratic organs of culture mostly document GOP bad and snipe at other democrats. There’s nothing really to hold people to doing.

kleinbl00  ·  26 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The basic issue, as I see it, is that the Republicans can pander to divisive social issues (because they don't cost anything) and then give money away to business in the Name of Freedom™. Democrats can be liberal AF about social issues (because they don't cost anything) and then ask for a whole bunch of big government projects that cost a fuckton and interfere with big business.

Spitballing, I'd say Democrats (the voters) care about health insurance, social welfare, global warming, reduced police militarization, cheaper college and cheaper housing. And I would say that for every one of those concerns there's a billion dollar lobbying machine hell-bent on the destruction of anyone who poses even a vague threat to them.

Republicans? When there's money involved it's invariably takes the form of Give Tax Revenue To Crony Capitalists.

Any democrat who actually runs on doing what democrats want is going to get creamed.

user-inactivated  ·  26 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Other problem is, unless you're willing to let the president be a tyrant, one person with integrity in government is barely going to help at all. You'd need to kick out all the existing corporate dems first before anything could get accomplished.

user-inactivated  ·  26 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah totally, its just hard to be surprised when voters resent voting for people who promise to do nothing that they want.

am_Unition  ·  26 days ago  ·  link  ·  

this is hitting the nail so square on the head that it splinters.

half of the oligarchy can't even put out a good liar except maybe Pete, who is phenomenal, and secretly a radical socialist.

just believe me, i will repeat it a lot, for effectivity.

"Mayor" Pete Buttigieg is secretly a radical socialist

hey man what do you think about Pete (some people call him "Mayor" Pete) Buttigieg?

no but fantastic comment, I am trying to give you a rhetorical treat I guess

Elect Mayor Pete for socialism

edit mk: the SOROSBUX pay interface is broken there is nothing in my account for this

usualgerman  ·  28 days ago  ·  link  ·  
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