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JakobVirgil  ·  4393 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: I'm Sick Of Pretending: I Don't "Get" Art | VICE

I get were you are coming from but I just don't buy the idea that rich people are smart. There is a lot of noise and randomness in making wealth. My very rich (fortune 500 executive) uncle said that wealth is a roulette wheel and he built a company from the ground up.

second point of disagreement that the selection of consumer goods is not largely bullshit. Point of evidence Apple.

The greatest American philosopher Phineas Taylor Barnum was not just whistling Dixie.

With all this said I think art can be transcendent. but just like most things in life a lot of it (97%) is bullshit.





kleinbl00  ·  4393 days ago  ·  link  ·  

1) "Luck" is being in the right place at the right time. The more skillful you are, the more likely you are to find the right place. The more driven you are, the more time you spend there. Sure - maybe it's a roulette wheel, like your uncle says. If you don't think there's strategy to roulette you've never gambled.

2) Apple has the highest market cap in the world because they sell products that people want and buy. We should table that discussion - I'm plenty pissed at apple for a number of reasons - but I have three Mac laptops, two mac desktops, a hackintosh, three iPhones and a 1st gen iPod in this house. I built my first PC at the age of ten. My father built the first network at the Department of Energy, about the same time as ARPANET, and had, at one point, 6,500 PCs under his control. I know macs. I know PCs. When you say "point of evidence Apple" all you do is appear ignorant.

3) "A fool and his money are soon parted" yet the people who buy overpriced artwork STAY RICH. Again - you're not looking clever here.

4) The department of fabricated statistics is not welcome, nor applicable in this debate.

JakobVirgil  ·  4393 days ago  ·  link  ·  

1) none of this equals taste and not falling for shit outside of ones expertise. like for instance in roulette (one of my degrees in applied mathematics) there is no strategy. The house has about 5.26% edge on everything except betting on First five in which case it has an even bigger edge 7.89% on single zero wheels betting on green gives the house 2.70% (is this the strategy you are talking about)

2) apple sells a line of proprietary products that deliver less function for the dollar than stuff made by less flashy folks. this is my definition of bullshit or if you prefer flimflam. People buy more MacDonalds than Cook-out I hardly think that makes Micky-dees better. Your list is not an argument. But here is one Donald Trump.

3) I was referring to "a sucker is born every minute".

4) pleaase we are having a debate? About what whether or not life has a high variance? However will we do the double blind experiments.

Please don't tell me rich folks are not tacky boring morons who don't know the difference between chicken shit and chicken salad when I just spent the whole night being reminded that this is indeed the case.

I sold 4 pieces was invited to two galleries and was called a genius no less than 5 times.

kleinbl00  ·  4393 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I could argue with you but there would be no point. The fact that you think I don't recognize a PT Barnum reference (particularly when he has pretty much one reference) simply illustrates how much smarter you think you are than the rest of the world. So I won't tell you anything any longer and suggest you do the same for me.

JakobVirgil  ·  4392 days ago  ·  link  ·  

cool :)

Actually not cool at all. You seem to be projecting motives and intent onto me that I do not have. I used a Barnum because I assumed everyone would get it.

Although the situation in which I am smarter than the folks I am talking to is not uncommon it is not the preferred case or even the assumed one.

So if you will stop assigning evil motives to me when I am just expressing my opinions and experiences with art and rich folks (subjects I have intimately involved in since my nativity) I will not assume you project your own intentions on others.