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AnSionnachRua  ·  4345 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: My Ex-Gay Friend

Oh, I'll agree with you there. I'd never insist on essential definitions of sexuality (indeed, I'm aware that the notion of categorisation based on sexual identity is a historically recent construction).

I'm just caught on your mention of "individual definitions". If I define "gay" as attraction to the same sex - let's just say a woman attracted to a woman (avoiding for now the debate re: gender and sex) - and you don't think it is necessarily defined by attraction to the same sex, then you and I will not understand each other. You will say that you are gay in conditions in which I will deny your gayness.

My point is just that there is an inherent problem in asserting that you are gay if there is no criterion at all for gayness.





lil  ·  4345 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yes, as I say above, that was one point in Del's comment that I had specific problems with. If, as he says, "You don't need to be sexually attracted to men to be gay" -- then I'm not sure what his gayness is based on - possibly other factors, as there is a whole associated lifestyle. Let me add that you don't need to be believe in God to be Jewish. (Hitler certainly didn't care what your belief was.) I suspect you also don't need to accept Jesus as your personal savious to consider yourself Christian. You may not need to support Obama to be a Democrat..... and so on. Labels are convenient ways of categorizing people and I think Del was showing how REDUCTIONIST all these labels were --- but for myself, I think I would have to be attracted to my gender to call myself gay or bi. On the whole I liked his comment but I agree that minimally one should have some attraction to the same sex to consider yourself gayish.

Raxyn13  ·  4344 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Pretty sure you have to accept Jesus to be Christian. That's sorta one of those concrete definitions.