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user-inactivated  ·  4386 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The Fallacy of the Baseball Hall of Fame

The fact remains that until people who are actually intelligent and understand baseball choose Hall of Famers, the hall will continue to spiral downward in quality.





Lobstah  ·  4386 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well I think some, if not most, of these guys are intelligent and understand baseball, but as Goldmine alluded to, they're trying to use their ballots to make a statement. And that shit just shouldn't fly. BoobsAreAwesome brought up some good points too- make the votes publicly available and take away votes from anyone who turns in a blank ballot.

user-inactivated  ·  4386 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Preaching to the choir.

However, I think it's been pretty well shown throughout the years that most of the HoF voters don't have a good grasp on the actual statistical analysis that is needed to determine relative player worth. Some do; the vocal minority who write the blogs. But it's important to remember that for every young Bill James acolyte, there are ten old-time sportswriters who don't really know what they're doing.

Lobstah  ·  4386 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Oh nice post, I'm new here so didn't catch it. But yeah, I seriously can't believe how many writers/scouts/fans STILL 'aren't buying into' Sabermetrics. Like...what the hell else do you need to see??

user-inactivated  ·  4386 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The problem is they still see it as something to buy into. That is, that Sabermetrics and the old-school way of judging baseball players are two competing viewpoints. If you'll allow me to get dramatic, it's a bit like evolution and creationism.

Who's your team?

Lobstah  ·  4386 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Right, that's the nail on the head. It's not incompatible with anything, they're just statistics for crying out loud.

Royals, unfortunately. Won the series my year of birth, downhill ever since.

user-inactivated  ·  4386 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well, the Royals have a great fanbase and a good city, much like the Cardinals. Two solid teams to root for, in my opinion.

Lobstah  ·  4386 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I follow the Cards pretty closely as well. Lived there for a few years, close proximity, need an NL team, etc. I'm excited we got Price and it looks like David Glass is actually willing to shell out some dough, so maybe a few things to look forward to.