One of the rather interesting side issues in this whole debate has been how casually the rights of foreigners are tossed aside as secondary to those of american citizens. There is intense debate about whether US citizens rights are being violated, but almost nobody questions whether there's any moral or ethical issue with completely unrestrained spying on everybody else. While I understand that this is largely because the legality of the spying hinges on whether US citizens are subject to it, I still find it a rather fascinating aspect.
As a Finnish my first thought about this was that: "Obama stole all my private data. Can I vote for the next U.S. president now?". There was already some article in Finnish news paper celebrating that our domestic cloud business might have a growth spurt because of this. But I'd look to Switzerland for that.
Thats the other reason I don't get about this "Killing US Internet Industry" discussion. So you move all over your servers overseas and immediately you have less rights to privacy than before as far as the NSA is concerned. Really just makes it just easier for them to access your data.
The deal is this. There is something like 200 million American internet users while there is 400 million European internet users. At the same time China and India are growing. You can keep serving those 200 million Americans as long as you wish, but if the rest of the worlds privacy is raped in the process, they might opt to use some other services than yours. Good luck with that trade deficit.
It's probably the word 'government' that's spooking everyone out. I think most people are conjuring up visions of the NSA telling insurance companies about your medical records and stuff. That or they probably think they'll be sending a SWAT team to your door every time you tweet about getting high or something. The point is, there are already checks and balances that exist to protect your privacy. Just because an organization has collected your data, doesn't mean they can look at it. Your metadata, no matter how much you try to hide it, is visible to a lot of people. Hell, your ISP probably uses that same metadata for all it's marketing and operational planning anyway. I personally don't think the US Justice system is so impotent that it cannot impose effective safeguards on the government.
I think your right. While evil corporations can collect and profile people they don't have the ability to put you in prison, so there isn't this relationship between privacy and freedom. And I think that people like to feel that it has some impact on their lives because it puts them at the center of the issue. We can all relate to having our personal privacy violated, but its harder to have a conversation about having some people's privacy infringed upon especially when there is a little bit of mystery around the topics that the NSA is really monitoring. I'd probably get concerned if this were happening at a state level, where the police were involved in data collection, or if this were actually something new. But people still post about underage drinking on twitter, and talk about drugs on facebook, so I'm not really concerned. That and I like knowing that there are people in the world that have bigger issues on their hands than cracking down on those kinds of things.
In fact, a lot of people like to think that the real issue isn't privacy infringement at all, but rather a sign of how large and powerful the intelligence-industrial complex has become. I read something rather interesting on Reddit the other day. Here's the comment. It's quite a handful