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pseydtonne  ·  4191 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: What languages do you speak?

I have been intrigued by Vietnamese for a long time. I grew up in a city (Utica, NY) that took in a lot of Vietnamese immigrants, so I've seen the language a lot of my life. It was in Roman characters but it was still elusive.





ButterflyEffect  ·  4191 days ago  ·  link  ·  

WOAH. pseydtonne, I'm from Utica as well!!!!!!!!

pseydtonne  ·  4191 days ago  ·  link  ·  

another ex-Utican! Proctor class of '92, was in the last class to attend UFA before it turned into a nursing home. I'm Dante, by the way. You?

ButterflyEffect  ·  4191 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I sent you some mail on the subject :)

humanodon  ·  4191 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah, the letter system that's in use was introduced by Jesuit missionaries. You can read more about it here. It's nice because it shows the reader which tones to use. Prior to the current alphabet, Vietnam used a script derived from Chinese characters, which shouldn't be surprising, given its proximity to China and the fact that Vietnam was the last Mandarin culture.

Unfortunately, because it is so clearly laid out and so few foreigners speak Vietnamese, speakers tend to be unused to hearing mispronunciations. Furthermore, there is very little difference in tones to a non-native speaker (it gets better with time) so it's easy to make mistakes. Check out this video to see what I mean. That video isn't the best, but I think it conveys my point. I consider myself pretty good at dealing with new pronunciations, as well as tongue twisters, but Vietnamese tongue twisters are so, so hard.