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thenewgreen  ·  3923 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: This will be the title track off of The New Green's next album -What do you think?

That's a really good call, I will definitely experiment with that. I may even play around with harmonies but my guess is a lower octave vocal and a higher one too... if I can pull that off.





user-inactivated  ·  3923 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Do you have any advice for someone who's writing their first EP right now?

I have a DAW, cardioid microphone, ukulele, MIDI-capable keyboard, and a will to find my sound.

kleinbl00  ·  3923 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Here's your advice:

If you're seriously considering making music, that means you've been listening to music for a long, long time. This means your musical palate has been refined light years ahead of your musical chops. In other words, everything you make will sound like shit to you.

It took you a while to really experience music to the point where you wanted to make your own. It will take you just as long to make music that you will experience the way you want. The best thing to do is MAKE MUSIC.

You don't need to share it. You don't need to find fans. You don't even need to like it. Just crank through. Make ten songs that you have no intention of ever playing for anyone. Then make another. Then by the time you've been at it, making hours of music no one will ever hear, you might find that you've created something you're proud of.

Congratulations. You're a musician.

"The difference between an amateur photographer and a professional photographer is the professional throws most of his shots away."

- Not Walt Whitman

_refugee_  ·  3923 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This, but with writing and reading, exactly. Exactly, exactly, exactly. This with anything you ever want to be good at, ever.

user-inactivated  ·  3923 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm now considering locking myself in my bedroom this weekend and doing just that. I agree with you; the experience of writing shitty music will surely set me up for some eventual success.

The biggest thing I've felt the need to do is share my music, but I now realize it's not necessary. I just need to create music instead.

kleinbl00  ·  3923 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The trick is in not sharing before you're ready.

Ask someone to listen to your first demo and you forever associate that first demo in their head with you. End up making something orders of magnitude better, and you will always be "first demo delta" in their heads.

thenewgreen  ·  3923 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Good advice imo. I have a friend, we'll call him jonaswildman that recorded over 700 songs/parts over the years (a guy I've known off and on since I was born essentially) and I had never even known he was recording. Then one day we reconnected and he shared me some of his songs. -Holy shit! The songs were/are amazing. Like you say, he is "first demo Jonas" instead of "umm, yeah with some practice and time you could be good jonas."

Eventually, it is nice to have one or two people that you trust and that actually cares to listen to your music. For me, it's been my wife over the years and a friend named Tim. My wife is brutally honest and Tim is incredibly supportive. -A nice combination.

Good luck delta. Just keep at it.

user-inactivated  ·  3922 days ago  ·  link  ·  

So I went home yesterday and recorded for an hour.

I found it's very, very hard to achieve something worth keeping. My time yesterday didn't lower my confidence at all, I'm just more determined to improve. I'm glad I found the motivation to try.

jonaswildman  ·  3922 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hey Delta, as thenewgreen mentioned I have a fair amount of songs/ song parts recorded and have been at it for 17 years or so. I think a passion for music is a good start towards creating it. When I was 15 I got an acoustic (strings were really high and it hurt to play) and every day I would sit and try to play Cure, Smashing Pumpkins and 70's tunes. Five years later I got a four track, a snare and a basic vocal mic, that I still use for my drums. Like thenewgreen, I would just experiment with my equipment, I would use my voice to make cymbal sounds, I would hit allen renches together to get hi pitch sounds and I would also use my acoustic as a drum. I was so excited to record and I was so obsessed with music that I recorded everday. I would write originals that sounded like the bands I was into. Writing in the style of your heroes will only make you better and soon you will find your own sound. For me that took 10 years. Within my first years of recording though I shared my stuff only with my parents and brother and no one else. My recordings were mine and I was happy to be the only one who heard them. I created music to fulfill and satisfy my own mind and I think thats a good way to approach it. Get good at your instrument/ instruments, experiment with your recording equipment, mimic a style/ styles , find your sound and share! For me, this journey with creating and recording music has taken 17 years, from the time I got my four track recorder until the time I first shared my music with someone outside my family. Record music to amuse yourself and not to share and I really do feel you will find your sound! Stick with it and I hope to one day hear your music!

user-inactivated  ·  3921 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thank you! You have really inspired me, I appreciate your input.

thenewgreen  ·  3922 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Keep at it. 90% of achievement is just showing up. I just 100% made that number up, but you get the point. When I first started recording I experimented a ton with home made sounds like, ripping paper and then looping it and claps, snaps, using the back of my guitar for a drum etc.

I was way more experimental back when I had no idea what I was doing. There can be more freedom sometimes in not knowing what to do.

Enjoy!

thenewgreen  ·  3923 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm not much of an engineer so the "how to" questions in regards to recording are best left to professionals like kleinbl00. (sorry for the multiple thread shout-outs kb). But I do know a lot about the process of recording from a creative standpoint and my biggest suggestion is to do it... a lot. Ever since I was a kid using two tape decks to overdub I've been voraciously recording songs. I've gotten to the point where I can sit down and within two hours have a pretty fully formed song recorded. -Not that they sound that great but still, not everyone can crank out music that quickly. I can do it because I have been for so long. So, my advice is to experiment, to explore all the capabilities of what you have. Especially if you have time. What I wouldn't give for more time to make music.

Also, never forget that the greatest instrument on earth is the human voice. Not just for signing either. You can do so much with your voice.

have fun, and post your songs. Also, feel free to ask any more questions/suggestions.

user-inactivated  ·  3923 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Wow, thanks for the great advice. I've never attempted recording before, so it's bound to be a bit rough. I've been inspired by listening to Zach Condon and the recordings he created at the age of fifteen.

He's the reason I want to record; he and I have the same vocal range and I'm very comfortable singing his music.