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similar answer to mike…. I've known mk for 69.23076% of my life. He invited me to poke around a site he had just built. Then I sent him an old laptop to use as his dev server… then I think the laptop died within days because it was a spectacular pile of garbage. We had a discussion about when hubski got huge, the dev laptop could go in a glass case and people would come from all around to marvel at hubski's humble beginnings… but I'm sure it got recycled instead.