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blackbootz  ·  3751 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Hubski Movie Club - Voting Thread #5

I've scanned the movies I have saved offline for future viewing, while I'm in nowhere Nebraska with not a lot of internet, and Solaris is the only relevant movie I have. I always assumed it was a space movie, but if it doesn't take place in space... then I'm out this round!

That, and I own the recent Prometheus, though I can already hear the groans if I suggest it.





kleinbl00  ·  3751 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well, let's define "space" shall we?

I think a "space movie" has to occur, for the most part, somewhere without air in which the majority of the action occurs in an environment not bounded by any planet. Otherwise we're just talking science fiction.

"Star Wars" would likely count as a "space movie", as would any Star Trek other than Into Darkness. However, Prometheus happens mostly on another planet, as does Forbidden Planet, as does Robinson Crusoe on Mars.

By this definition, "Outland" is shaky... but as the majority of the action is driven by remoteness (it's set in the near future on Ganymede), low gravity and an utter lack of atmosphere, it's closer to being a "space movie" than Eolomea or, say, Screamers.

ecib  ·  3749 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This list seems like a good starting point:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_about_outer_space

briandmyers  ·  3751 days ago  ·  link  ·  

"Silent Running" fits this definition pretty well. It's been a long time since I saw that one; not sure how well it holds up.

kleinbl00  ·  3750 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Ooooh Silent Running. I haven't seen it in 10 years but I saw it 10 years. Joan Baez is very Joan Baez and some of the SFX hurt, but remember - it's a Cimino. Before Deer Hunter, before Heaven's Gate, there was Silent Running.

b_b  ·  3751 days ago  ·  link  ·  

What about a movie where space is an essential element, although not really a part of the narrative that we watch? I'm thinking, e.g., of Planet of the Apes (original version, as if I even need to specify). Space movie, or no?

thundara  ·  3751 days ago  ·  link  ·  

If you get that one then I get Contact (Not that I'm really vying for it, since I've seen it four times already)

b_b  ·  3751 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I don't have a dog in this fight. I'm indifferent, but I was just curious as to what kb and everyone else thinks about what role space needs to play to make a movie "about" space. I suppose everyone has their own idea. PotA is reliant on space travel to set up the plot, but that's as far as it goes. Space leaves the picture in about five minutes, and from then on it isn't a theme of the movie, even though Heston believes he's on some far flung planet for the duration.

I would say Contact is far more of a space movie than PotA, as the mystery signal comes from space, and space itself is almost a character. Space represents a lot in Contact, whereas it's incidental in Apes, in my opinion.

thundara  ·  3751 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Aye, I'm against picking either, just brought it up as a movie that could be interpreted as "spacey" but was primarily set on planet Earth.

I'm still hoping for a ball out of left field that I haven't seen or heard of before. Barring that, I may just watch a movie starring this guy:

camarillobrillo  ·  3751 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Do I smell apple pie?

b_b  ·  3751 days ago  ·  link  ·  

KPAX?!

(It's ambiguously "spacey".)

thundara  ·  3676 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Watched it last night, thoughtful and enjoyable, but also way too long.

b_b  ·  3676 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I don't remember it being that great, but it's been a long time. I only suggested it because it's ambiguously spacey starring Spacey. I don't know of any other films that fit those parameters.

camarillobrillo  ·  3751 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This is a good point. Planet of the Apes is definitely a space movie in my book.

kleinbl00  ·  3751 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Not even vaguely a space movie.

camarillobrillo  ·  3751 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Damn you Klein. Why the hell not?

blackbootz  ·  3751 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Ha, wow. The juxtaposition between you and kb's answer goes to show, we need a definition of space movie.

camarillobrillo  ·  3751 days ago  ·  link  ·  

He described his version a bit above but I still don't like it. What about Dune?

blackbootz  ·  3751 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Haven't seen it, though I don't think I could get it this week or next (remote location, not a lot of internet). So I actually shouldn't be throwing any weight around this discussion. But I love watching movies and then coming back to these.

camarillobrillo  ·  3751 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well he's right I guess. At least as far as Planet of the Apes is concerned. To say why would ruin the ending.

thundara  ·  3751 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Haven't seen Prometheus either, but I was enticed by the Fassbender...

blackbootz  ·  3751 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's a very interesting movie. I had pleasant experience, despite some of the plotholes that were endlessly "exposed" and beat to death on any reddit discussion. I found that the movie drew two opposite reactions, love or hate.