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Also_kleinbl00  ·  3676 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Goodbye Hubski, Thanks for Trying

Using this account only because if you're going to air dirty laundry, at least air the boilerplate.

mk - I thought the whole point of shout-outs while muted was to "invite the vampire in." When did that change?





Kaius  ·  3675 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I have no opinion one way or another on why the guy left, seemed over the top to be honest.

kleinbl00 I did find your article very interesting though and I seem to remember either reading it or something similar you posted way way back. One thing that strikes me is that, by your own explanation, you have an online persona that communicates with other online personas in a completely different manner to your offline life. I say personas rather than persons because from your perspective, you don't know the other person, you only know what they have written and you speak (discuss, argue, educate, annihilate) directly to that rather than the person behind it. I would guess this comes about from being a very active member of several online communities for a long period of time. You have an evolved sense of online self which I would guess is not the case with many of those you interact with.

From my own perspective this is not how I or indeed many others view their "online persona". For some our online personas are simply an extension of our offline personalities, We try to communicate online exactly as we do in real life.

For some others they have an even less sophisticated online self which, due to the de-inhibiting nature of anonymity results in them becoming assholes.

If I had to guess why people tend to take your comments to heart its down to them falling into either of the 2 groups I mentioned above. They view your tirades as either a direct attack on them as a person, or they view it as a direct attack on their online asshole and react accordingly. This results in hurt feelings, sore asses and emotional explosions all wrapped up in a text box of impotent post rage.

Its not for me to say whether your tactic is right or wrong because I have never encountered any context where applying that mechanism of aggression-as-time-saver would be a realistic option. I do admire the efficiency of it all though and the time you invested in it.

Switching topic, this whole 'hubski is kleins and not your thing' is BS. I read a lot of stuff on hubski, I rarely post because honestly I don't have the fucking time :(. Right now hubski is a collection of people who interact on a pretty personal level, I have a sense of each of the more active persons on the site and what their interests are. Compare that to other sites where its a shotgun blast of unknown, unknowable strangers commenting and then disappearing forever into a void... klein is one of the reasons I visit this site but if he left I would still be here. The same can be said for many others regardless of their follower count which matters little IMO.

kleinbl00  ·  3675 days ago  ·  link  ·  

'k, enough's enough. I'ma write sumpin'.

Kaius  ·  3675 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I honestly don't think ya need to, this was a 'IMO' post, if its off its off..

kleinbl00  ·  3675 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No, Im just sick of valuable discussion going down in a well of poison. There are things that we oughtta be talking about but this ain't the place.

sardis  ·  3675 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    You have an evolved sense of online self which I would guess is not the case with many of those you interact with.

    From my own perspective this is not how I or indeed many others view their "online persona". For some our online personas are simply an extension of our offline personalities, We try to communicate online exactly as we do in real life.

    For some others they have an even less sophisticated online self which, due to the de-inhibiting nature of anonymity results in them becoming assholes.

i recall similar talk from kleinbl00 a while ago. it was in a thread made by a first time poster and it detailed some heavy personal life stuff. klein and others thought of it as a failure because the user starting their "hubski persona" with such a post seemed gauche. i remember finding it really interesting seeing these concepts discussed so starkly. i will try finding the thread but i do not trust my searching capabilities.

kleinbl00  ·  3675 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Kaius  ·  3675 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Jees i commented on that one too. I seem to have an unhealthy interest in how we form our virtual selves.

sardis  ·  3675 days ago  ·  link  ·  

thank you :)

sardis  ·  3675 days ago  ·  link  ·  

this is the thread i was talking about here:

    ...a thread made by a first time poster and it detailed some heavy personal life stuff.

this comment thread specifically talks about online identity stuff. the meatspace thread is much more substantial though.

thenewgreen  ·  3676 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think the "vampire invite" may need to be either in a comment or by someone that doesn't have you muted. We definitely haven't intentionally done away with it.

Test: kleinbl00

kleinbl00  ·  3676 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hard to tell. I can reply to the individual comment, but I can reply to all the individual comments. I'm still "muted here" on the main thread (probably vestigial) but no matter where I go, I can still reply.

user-inactivated  ·  3676 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Oh god, I remember this image.

Oh god, we're watching the Twlight rifftrax right now.

thenewgreen  ·  3676 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You know, I've never seen any of the twilight films, am I missing out? At this point I sort of wear it as a badge of honor.

user-inactivated  ·  3676 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Watch them, but watch them with the rifftrax commentary. They're the exact brand of humor my sis and I have, we have never laughed this hard watching a series of movies before.

kleinbl00  ·  3676 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This is, like, my wife's favorite thing.

I recognize that this may be a religiously offensive thing to say, but tequila really adds. Feel free to take my word for it. On the other hand,

Hey, TNG. Get lit and watch these. So choice.

thenewgreen  ·  3676 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Will do. You had me at "get lit." However, I'm normally the nicest drunk on earth, but tequila makes me mean. Absinthe? -Cool, I'm in.

kleinbl00  ·  3676 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That might be HYLARIOUS

camarillobrillo  ·  3675 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You my friend should start watching all the old Mystery Science Theater 3000's on YouTube.

Start with Mitchell and play around from there. They're all gold.

thenewgreen  ·  3676 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Where do I find it straight through and not just snippets? Help, I'm old and stuff.

user-inactivated  ·  3676 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'll send you a link relatively soon!

user-inactivated  ·  3676 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I've never seen them or read the books. I read this rationalist retelling of the series instead, and thought it was great. So I now have nothing but positive mental associations with Twilight.

kleinbl00  ·  3676 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That's kind of awesome. I'ma check that out.

There was a brief shining period when Breaking Dawn was going to happen but hadn't quite happened where this piece was completely hilarious.

user-inactivated  ·  3676 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm sold on that article you linked, by the way. They describe the main character as "lacteal." Of all the words for having pale skin...

Kaius  ·  3675 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'd have gone with 'anaemic'...

user-inactivated  ·  3676 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's long and as strange as you'd guess. Eminently worth it, though. I accidentally got deep into the rationalist fiction community (which means anything from the denser side of Yudkowsky to merely making sure your plots are idiot ball-proof) and am really loving the output.

Scions include

Ra

HPMoR

Worm

This retelling of Superman (?)

and Luminosity. Turns out you don't have suspend disbelief to write/read good fiction!

rene  ·  3675 days ago  ·  link  ·  

My favorite is HPMoR, which imo is the most well written. Worm is second best although...substantial. Honestly, I couldn't get into a lot of the other ones because of the "fan fic style" they're written in, it immediately takes me out of the story.

Have you read any Neal Stephenson (I'm sure you have)? He has a similar writing style.

user-inactivated  ·  3675 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm sitting on Anathem ... god if I could stop time...

Also, I made a longer post in case you missed it.

rene  ·  3675 days ago  ·  link  ·  
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kleinbl00  ·  3676 days ago  ·  link  ·  

'k, so I can maybe do one of these... at least to start. Get me started, dawg. Hell, make a post. This seems a weird place to continue this discussion, considering.

user-inactivated  ·  3676 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Will do.

Cumol  ·  3675 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I actually watched 2 of them with my sisters. The cinema was in the next jewish town - now that I write this, I wonder if there is a cinema in any major arabic town in israel, whatever - and the bus connections were inconvenient (back then, 3 buses a day), so I HAD to drive my sisters to the cinema. And there was no other movie in parallel blabla... In short, it was either wait outside, drive back home, or watch the movie.

So I did. Sitting there as the only guy between teenage girls and soccer moms. It felt weird, but I kinda got into the mood of the movie. You know, when a story sucks you in even though it's dumb and you have popcorn.

Until this guy (Edward?) walked into sunlight for the first time. He fucking started to glitter. I totally lost it. Laughed so hard I started coughing up the popcorn I had just eaten. All around me the girls were giving me the deathray vision and loudly calling "shushhhh".

I behaved after that, as well as I could. One of the funniest unexpected moments I ever had.

Now that I spoiled the surprise, I would not reccomend watching the movie. Totally predictable, except for glittering vampires.

thenewgreen  ·  3676 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah, that's the way it's always been. You should only be able to reply to the person that invited you in.

Edit:

    but no matter where I go, I can still reply
-that's strange. Even on comments where you were not shouted-out?
kleinbl00  ·  3676 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Correct. I suspect that once he blew up his account he opened a rift in space-time.

thenewgreen  ·  3676 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That could very well be. mk, it's also been brought to my attention that after inactivating your account your username still populates in some instances. Let's talk about it on our Monday call.

mk  ·  3676 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Ok.