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galen  ·  3638 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: This App Constantly Records Everything Your Phone Sees and Hears

That has two possible implications, both of which are likely to come to fruition if the app gains traction:

1. A constant, terrifying sense that it's entirely possible that someone/everyone around you is constantly recording your actions. (But let's be real, is that so different from what we have now?)

2. Increased accountability for the actions of law enforcement.

2 is awesome, but it seems like the creators didn't really consider the possibility of 1. I'm almost tempted to try it out for a week, just to see what happens.





user-inactivated  ·  3638 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  

    2. Increased accountability for the actions of law enforcement.

okay, so, people suggest this all the time.

but look at the case of Eric Garner: we literally have undisputable video of police killing a man by taking actions explicitly prohibited by the police department, ignoring his pleas for assistance, and then neglecting to attempt resuscitation after he passes out and stops moving. and it doesn't even go to court.

now how are body cameras, phone cameras, any cameras at all, gonna help a goddamn thing?

elizabeth  ·  3636 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Edit: somehow, the link starts at the begining of the video even if I changed the URL to skip the part irrelevant to the discussion... skip to 3:50

I agree with Dan Brown on this. Of course the officer should have been arrested but the problem does not lie with the camera but the whole system. And at the very least the fact that it was filmed shone a light on this (because now law enforcement can't just say that they got information that the public doesn't like they did in previous cases) and this will (hopefully) lead to more reforms to make the system better.

Just because the camera footage didn't help in this case, doesn't mean we should reject cameras as part of the solution.

user-inactivated  ·  3637 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    now how are body cameras, phone cameras, any cameras at all, gonna help a goddamn thing?

WaPo ran a piece on the preventive aspects of cops wearing body cameras, with lots of statistics. I can dig it up if you didn't see it already.

galen  ·  3638 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I... don't have a meaningful response to that. The system is fucked.

b_b  ·  3638 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Sure that case is perplexing, but there is plenty of evidence that body cams reduce police violence by a whopping amount. They seem to make everyone behave better. Trust the data and not the anecdotes.

OftenBen  ·  3636 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Tell that to the Garners.