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comment by Meriadoc
Meriadoc  ·  3422 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Pubski: July 15, 2015

This is what I'm getting at, too. When racist asshats dominate everything, it makes it preeeetty fuckin' clear to POC that this looks just like reddit. I've been racking my brain for a week about what better things we can do to moderate out scum, I've been picking the brains of other users, I was talking to mk today, and the few ideas I have will piss off a number of people no matter what. I find it worth fighting for though, so I'll push ahead as much as I can, but then again I'm not asked to defend my stances on race relations every single day. Oh wait, a racist asshat made sure there's been a thread in my feed every day for a week to tell me white privilege don't real. He must be right.





arguewithatree  ·  3422 days ago  ·  link  ·  

piggybacking off that, 8bit isn't just being required to defend his stance on race relations... he's being asked to defend his own existence.

_refugee_  ·  3420 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm pretty sure the answer is "stop engaging," and I'm pretty sure not enough people get that for it to be effective. If we all decided a shitty user was shitty and no longer fed that user attention, there wouldn't be such a problem. To be honest I've had that one we've been talking about all day triple-modded for so long that when people started to post about him, I had to go looking to figure out what the issue was.

Yes you should stand up against someone's racism. No you should not make a habit of giving a racist an audience.

wasoxygen  ·  3422 days ago  ·  link  ·  

What if you didn't have to stop the asshat from being an asshat, but their comments were rendered invisible to you? Almost as if they were muttering to themselves…

Meriadoc  ·  3422 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's a great idea that I like a lot, along with a block feature that mk and b_b were talking of earlier. My bigger issue is the image that is put out. The asshat we're talking about has made himself present in every post recently, so new users first experience is going to be... a vitriolic racist red piller. It would still be great, because as users will go on, they'll see that people have applied the Mutter option to him so much he never gets responses.... except from new users who don't know yet. Imperfect, but it's still a step that would do a lot.

caeli  ·  3422 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think this is what I needed go hear to justify muting/hushing/etc this user. I've been letting him bother me since I've been on here and I shouldn't do that to myself.

thundara  ·  3422 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Posts highly-muted people make are hidden from global, comments on others' posts are not though.

But then again, false positives in posts on global are only slightly bothersome. False positives on highly-muted people having their comments would be a lot worse (and easily abusable).

tla  ·  3422 days ago  ·  link  ·  

So shadowbanning?

wasoxygen  ·  3422 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No, not if that means the asshat becomes invisible to everyone else.

You don't see comments from the user you don't like; no one else’s experience is affected.