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thenewgreen  ·  3267 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: What Satoshi Did

Am I wrong in assuming that in order to actually get anything "mined" you would have to have a pretty powerful machine these days that would utilize a lot of electricity and put off a lot of heat? The hotel might notice.





OftenBen  ·  3267 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The machine doesn't have to be much more powerful than a normal gaming PC, and bitcoin miners are optimized to reduce energy waste as much as possible.

The problem is more that it takes a long time to mine a single bitcoin these days, and unless you routinely spend a lot of time in places where you wouldn't be paying for electricity, it's not really cost-effective to be mining bitcoins.

user-inactivated  ·  3267 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Mining bitcoins has always cost more in electricity than the value of the coins you were mining, but coins mined in the early days paid off when bitcoins went from being worth a few cents to being worth a few hundred dollars. Whether it's worth doing now depends on whether you expect the value of your bitcoins to increase enough to make it pay off.

rinx  ·  3267 days ago  ·  link  ·  

If the only value in mining is made by bitcoin increasing, then you should never mine, since you could just buy bitcoins today then sell them later. I think most miners just hope one day the price will jump so high it will justify the electric use. Of course, by then, more efficient miners will have been created, so in general it seems like a pretty bad idea.

user-inactivated  ·  3267 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'd be interested to know how many people mining aren't doing it primarily as a hobby.

Kajman  ·  3267 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hobbyists don't usually drop 10k+ on little ASIC farms, that is left to misguided investors.

Source: pathetically bitter ex-dogecoin miner

user-inactivated  ·  3267 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I am sorry for your loss.

But now I have to ask, what made dogecoin look like a good investment?

Kajman  ·  3267 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Nothing at all, I was merely around for the community of it.

thenewgreen  ·  3267 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That's interesting, I have a friend that mines bitcoin and said he keeps the machine in his garage and it gets very hot. Also, the cops came to his house because of the power bill surge, they thought he was growing marijuana.

wasoxygen  ·  3267 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Also, the cops came to his house because of the power bill surge, they thought he was growing marijuana.

I found this hard to believe, but apparently it happens. Now I found something else hard to believe:

    Indoor growers are estimated to consume about 1 percent of the nation's electricity

Based on source and infographic.

thenewgreen  ·  3267 days ago  ·  link  ·  

he was told by the police that it was a common occurrence. Also, they were very nice to him and genuinely interested in what this whole "Bitcoin" stuff was all about.

OftenBen  ·  3267 days ago  ·  link  ·  

He probably uses a repurposed PC rather than a purpose built bitcoin mining rig. Most of those will generate a lot of heat.

thenewgreen  ·  3267 days ago  ·  link  ·  

He replied. He says it's very hot. He used a bitman tech antminer fwiw.

thenewgreen  ·  3267 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Nope. At least I don't think so. I just texted him, we'll see if he replies. Now I'm curious

mk  ·  3267 days ago  ·  link  ·  

If you are part of a mining pool, you will be credited by your hashing power contribution. I think if you could get a cheap asic miner and free electricity, it might be worth your while in the long run. As bfv says, it all depends upon just how much BTC is worth, and how quickly it appreciates.

kleinbl00, I don't think you'd turn a profit on anything but a free mining rig within 5 weeks. But I read about some brothers trying to sell water heaters that were heated by bitcoin miners.

I think it'd be cool to get a raspberry pi and make a solar, wind, or tidal mining rig.

OftenBen  ·  3267 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I think it'd be cool to get a raspberry pi and make a solar, wind, or tidal mining rig.

I smell a business opportunity. A device that does nothing but generate income after X number of months?

mk  ·  3267 days ago  ·  link  ·  

$5 for a Raspberry Pi Zero.

I wonder if you can have it run on a solar panel and a battery, and turn on and off depending on the charge.