Hey! I appreciate you taking the time to write this. I have a lot a lot a lot A LOT of thoughts on Israel/Palestine as a Jewish person who studies the Middle East. Honestly, I too would prefer a religion-free resolution to the one/two state solution issue, but the identity of a Jewish state is central to Zionism, so I don't think that's a fight that anyone is going to win, especially while the ultra Orthodox have a chokehold on Parliament or while the rest of world Jewry is so invested in the "fate" of Israel so to speak. Going through the unlearning process is really hard and takes a lot out of the people doing the unlearning. It was really easy to absorb all of the messages thrown at me growing up and when I lived in Israel for a short period of time. And then one day the radical notion that whoa Palestinians are people too and your elders don't always know what's best hit me, and I've been working through a decade and a half of shit to get to where I am now. That's something that has to happen on a large scale for us to get anywhere meaningful in this process, but because it's hard people don't want to. And that's a shitty excuse but you see it everywhere. This is just me throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks so I hope it makes sense
I believe myself to be an open person. Above-average open with rather radical thoughts when compared to other people from my home town. Still, this step, or thinking was extremely hard for me. I had to cry. It was so intense, it felt like I have lost a loved one. If I think about the fact that many people who wouldn't even consider thinking into that direction need to go through this for things to change, I become very pessimistic to see a change in the next generations. But maybe I am judging people again, underestimating them.
I one hundred percent understand that. It was really hard for me to take a step back and realize that I've been taught bigoted things by people who strongly professed NOT to be bigoted. And it was very hard to separate those two things.
Well I just signed up for Hubski, and this is the most validating post/thread I've seen on a site in a long time! Thank you Cumol and arguewithatree. Also, being Jewish, although removed from the tension in the Diaspora, I can relate 100% with this last bit. I've come to these crossroads myself now being isolated from my usual community realizing the irony in being taught compassion with exception. It makes sense to me as well seeing no swift resolution in sight. Though, I want to say that your solution proposed makes sense to me, too; more so than others. That said, Thank you both for sharing. It's refreshing to see/read of similar mind. EDIT: Last sentence sounded weird to me; rephrased it.That's something that has to happen on a large scale for us to get anywhere meaningful in this process, but because it's hard people don't want to.
is where I guess we all stand now.
> just signed up > long time ??? ;) welcome. Lovely to have you
Thanks!!! :D Re: "just signed up" vs. "long time" The atmosphere around the posts on Hubski is fresh for me based on my years of lurking on the internet. I was expecting/looking for something similar to what I found in /r/TrueReddit. Seeing the depth that users go into on their own that gets to the global feed is uplifting.