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kleinbl00  ·  3113 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Can US Senators Speak English?

I would have to work hard at saying positive things about the Libertarian Party, and I just gave three units of platelets so I'm not working hard at anything right now.





user-inactivated  ·  3113 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Now look what you've made me do.

They really, truly, have a visceral aversion to any kind of coercion they recognize as such. That's not just a justification for being asshole, they're consistent. They don't want to be pushed around, and they don't want you to be pushed around. They have too narrow a sense of what being constitutes being pushed around ("do this or starve" isn't actually a choice), so they fail to apply their principals to the more subtle coercions of the market along with the government, and that (at this point surely wilful) obliviousness makes them unfit to hold office, but "don't fuck with me and I won't fuck with you" is a fine moral principal that I wish was more widely held.

ghostoffuffle  ·  3113 days ago  ·  link  ·  

booooooooooo

"I want to acquire stuff by my preferred means and then be left alone with my stuff" isn't a noble philosophy, especially when applied so rigidly. A consistently base opinion ought not be considered laudable for being consistent.

"Don't fuck with me" is fine... so long as we can agree with what "fuck with me" means. "I won't fuck with you" is fine... so long as it's enforceable. These two caveats- group consensus and outside enforcement- constitute the pillars of social contract, which happens to be the antithesis of libertarianism, which essentially champions a return to state of nature. Which is garbage.

That doesn't even touch on my objection to the kind of social values (or lack thereof) libertarianism naturally espouses. But I gotta get back to studying HIPAA right now, so I'll quit while I'm not bleeding out of all my face holes.

b_b  ·  3112 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That's a funny irony, because HIPAA is something that might makes me hate government so much I might turn libertarian!

user-inactivated  ·  3112 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I've become a great fan of HIPAA since being dragged kicking and screaming into the corporate world, because "we need to devote some time to protecting our users' privacy, because not doing that would be irresponsible" does not move The Powers That Be, but "we need to devote some time to protecting our users' privacy because HIPAA" does, The Powers That Be not caring about all about doing things right if it costs them money but caring quite a bit about avoiding legal troubles. I like regulations that force The Powers That Be to let me do things closer to right. Without them I have to lie a lot...

I hated it when I worked at a nonprofit, when we only had to pay attention to it when it turned out to proscribe something strictly inferior to what we planned to do.

b_b  ·  3112 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Haha. Glad someone has found a positive use for it. Had a long conversation last night about the virtues of using a fax machine, because it's the easiest way to stay compliant. In 2016. 2.0.1.6. Fax machines.

kleinbl00  ·  3111 days ago  ·  link  ·  

There's an app for that. My wife faxes shit from her iPad a half dozen times a day.

b_b  ·  3111 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Go on...

user-inactivated  ·  3111 days ago  ·  link  ·  

There are several services that do fax-via-email. hellofax is one.

b_b  ·  3111 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    All transmissions are encrypted with bank-grade level of security.

Sounds interesting. Thanks. thenewgreen ecib

thenewgreen  ·  3111 days ago  ·  link  ·  

According to elfassy, once you use this it's not longer compliant. Let's just build it out fully compliant without fax bandaids

thenewgreen  ·  3111 days ago  ·  link  ·  

elfassy Look at this please

kleinbl00  ·  3111 days ago  ·  link  ·  
OftenBen  ·  3111 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I have to send prescriptions to a pharmacy within my own institution by fax, because they refuse to receive them any other way, because somebody emailed them for narcotics once.

user-inactivated  ·  3111 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Like someone emailed a prescription, or someone just asked for narcotics? If the latter, did they get them?

OftenBen  ·  3111 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The former, but didn't include some obscure kind of e-signature that's no longer used. Made it look fraudulent.

user-inactivated  ·  3111 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well, that's not nearly as funny.

kleinbl00  ·  3111 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It is truly a blunt tool for good.

I've been known to rant rather a lot about the Americans with Disabilities Act and the twisted and ridiculous ways in which it is used. But the fact of the matter is, it's done an awful lot to allow disabled individuals to lead more normal, more comfortable lives. HIPAA is similar - it's a broad set of guidelines that permit people to sue over privacy which is more than the Constitution allows.

b_b  ·  3111 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I agree with you. I think the problem comes in when the regulation itself seems like more of an ends than a means. All in all the world is better with HIPAA and especially ADA; getting there takes some wacky turns, however.

kleinbl00  ·  3111 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Had a boss who got to have lunch with some of the people who wrote the ADA. They copped to the fact that their legislation was deliberately vague on the presumption that caselaw would refine the regs.

In plain English, "We expect a lot of people to be sued over their interpretations of our wording, and we see that as a good thing."

b_b  ·  3111 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hell, we're still seeing new case law on Title IX more than 50 years later. I expect as more conditions are recognized as disabilities that ADA will have the same fate for years to come.

kleinbl00  ·  3111 days ago  ·  link  ·  

If 2% of all parking spots must be handicapped spots, it stands to reason that 2% of drivers will eventually be handicapped in the eyes of the law.

snoodog  ·  3111 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Laws aren't designed that way but in engineering world 2% might instead be a number that could guarantee sufficient access 95% of the time. Also according to Google 1/10 of all Americans have a severe disability so 2% is actually an underrepresented portion if you don't account for other factors

user-inactivated  ·  3111 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I have seen a couple of programs for subsets of homeless people never actually serve anyone because the subset of homeless people they were allowed to serve turned out to be empty.

user-inactivated  ·  3111 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think the worst I've ever gotten from the ADA has been needing to give screen readers something to say for visualizations and other features that are only useful if you can see, rather than just letting them ignore things that are useless to their users. I'm sure everyone using a screenreader just moves on without a second thought, but I always felt like drawing their attention to things they couldn't use was a little too much like taunting them.

thenewgreen  ·  3112 days ago  ·  link  ·  

if I had a badge to give...

user-inactivated  ·  3113 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It wasn't libertarian politics I praised, just the inclinations that give rise to them. I don't think "I want to acquire stuff by my preferred means and then be left alone with my stuff" is the core there, it's "I don't want to have obligations I didn't opt in to forced upon me."

I find Libertarian politics frustrating, but mostly because they're the only sort of antiauthoritarian politics with any kind of momentum in America and they're the party of let the capitalists have their way with all of us, so not really antiauthoritarian at all.

kleinbl00  ·  3112 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I agree with you 100%, but unfortunately it is impossible in these United States to have a political philosophy that isn't 90% economic philosophy and the Libertarians are pretty much Warlords & Serfs.

kleinbl00  ·  3112 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Be sure to intersperse it with searches for funny ICD-10 codes.

    V91.05XA: Burn due to canoe or kayak on fire, initial encounter

    W59.29XS: Other contact with turtle, sequel

    W61.62XD: Struck by duck, subsequent encounter
goobster  ·  3112 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I once wrote a database for Kaiser Permanente in San Francisco that contained all the ICD-9 and CPT codes.

Since it was a text file import into the database, I had to go through both datasets and read EVERY SINGLE ONE of them to ensure there were no spurious characters or other weirdnesses.

Man... Other Contact With A Turtle, sequel... brings back memories... (and that is a GREAT name for a band!)

ghostoffuffle  ·  3112 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hahahaha holy shit... those are real ICD-10 codes? How many times does something like that have to happen to merit its own code?

kleinbl00  ·  3112 days ago  ·  link  ·  

There are tumblrs and blogs dedicated to them.

This rabbit hole is bottomless.

user-inactivated  ·  3112 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I eagerly await the rash of turtle bludgeonings as irate med students look the these as inspiration.

kleinbl00  ·  3112 days ago  ·  link  ·  

My fundamental problem with Libertarians boils down to one woman.

It has been my general experience that you can discuss civil liberties with Libertarians all day. You can heartily agree and shake hands on the principle of the golden rule. But at some point you put forth some form of tragedy-of-the-commons dilemma (healthcare, public safety, infrastructure, courts, you name it) and they lick their thumbs, page through Atlas Shrugged and start pontificating about how greed is good and that people have the right to their own self-determination and basically reveal themselves not to be self-determinists but to be neo-feudalists who think they'll win because they've thought about it the longest.

user-inactivated  ·  3112 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah, I can't find a nice thing to say about Ayn Rand. Bad philosophy in expressed in worse novels.

But I think around the edges people start with dissatisfaction and latch on to the theory that seems to best express it, so "is this theory bullshit" isn't the right question to ask (they all are), the question to ask is "why have you latched on to this theory." Now, I think guys like Alan Greenspan probably latch onto it because feudalism isn't so bad if you're on top, but I don't think that's the motivation for the rank-and-file libertarian, who are for the most part not on top and know it.

kleinbl00  ·  3112 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It is my considered opinion that the overlap between libertarians and preppers is not coincidental.

Libertarians espouse, above all else, the principle of fairness and resist, above all else, the concept of externalities. They are self-determinist to a fault and are generally resistant to bureaucracy of any kind for any purpose. The average libertarian thinks they would be far happier a hundred and fifty years ago when land was free and self-determination was the watchword but the average libertarian also resists the notion that "free land" is a consequence of a totalitarian cavalry hell-bent on genocidal conquer. The smart ones will wiggle back to "well of course we need an army to protect our civil liberties but only to protect our civil liberties" but will always change the subject when you point out that private armies are never used for good.

user-inactivated  ·  3113 days ago  ·  link  ·  

My problem with the Libertarians is the same issue I have with Communists. If you take human nature out of the equation, both economic philosophies are AWESOME. Humans, however, fuck everything up and need checks and balances and the push/motivation to advance the species.

That and my first interactions with Libertarians were Alex Jones and Ayn Rand. There are some good ideas in there if you get past the nutjobisms.

kleinbl00  ·  3112 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I used to think the Communists were okay in numbers less than 100, then b_b made me read Richard Pipes.

Who is exactly the kind of guy who would advise Reagan, is about as liberal as Henry Kissinger and not only concisely and completely makes the point that Marxist "Communism" has never really been tried and fails on every level, he also observes that Marxism-Leninism as practiced in the USSR and China is basically advanced kleptocracy with Marxist trappings.

I think there were some serious "but on the other hand" embellishments of Communism during the Cold War and actually digging in and going chapter'n'verse on it convinced me pretty concisely that Communism doesn't work on any scale and was never intended to.