so, i'm just wanna know what do u guys think about taking arts in university? well short story, i'm a girl who live in vancouver. i'm currently studying in college. the first time i enter this college, i'm 100% sure that i want to take animation/ graphic design as my major. but as the time goes by, i know some friends who are going to take the same major as me, but they are all expert at drawing.. on the other hand, i barely draw, i dont even know how to use photoshop or any drawing software.. i just love arts, i love animation, i love how arts encourage me to even study more and i love making DIY things, and designing. so i just wanna know, should i keep on my track, which is struggling in art classes and knowing that my friends are experts or should i just give it up and look for any other interests? i really need ur opinion guys. i'm sorry if my english isn't that good, since english is not my mother language, thanks anyway! :)
I wouldn't recommend art school to anyone. I have a BFA in studio art and I wouldn't say I regret it but it's not something I'd advocate for anyone unless they're just fabulously talented and can get into a very traditional program like Ringling. I was in a similar position to you when I picked my major. Art was the only major at the time that I considered because it was the only thing I knew I liked but I was like 17 so I didn't know what else was available. Now I know I'm really interested in logistics but I didn't even know what that was at the time. And I'm not going back to school and getting further into debt so I have an art degree and work in a frame shop making $15/hr. It doesn't sound like you're in a good position starting out. When I started school I had a portfolio from high school and I knew the basic programs like Photoshop and Illustrator and I had an internship behind me going in. Art school is really competitive and the job market for artists is even worse. And the pay isn't commensurate with the level of competition. We're talking like $20k for a graphic designer out of school in my area and they expect you to know the entire Adobe suite and be able to do various web things like Java and html, css. That's not to say that you can't go through a program and get a level where you're competitive in the job market but you're hobbled from the start and most public universities are willing to take your money and give you a degree the you can't do anything with. At least in the states. I went to school with a bunch of people who could accurately be described as having no talent and they got the same degree as me and I was headed to a good MFA program until I realized I couldn't afford six figure debt with the prospect of an adjunct instructor job as the likely outcome. I don't mean to discourage you. Too much. Art school is a bad idea but if you really want to do I guess go for it. But I'd say you're better off finding something else and I think you can do that just fine if you take some classes that interest you and build some life experience.
thanks for your story, so i think if i'm attending art school, i'll be one of those no talent guys.. because i honestly never really know what i'm interested in except in art, or what am i good at. i think my life is really flat, i study what teacher teach me in school, and its all about textbooks, right? i love to read articles on the internet, and i enjoy watching youtube. i spend most of my weekends on youtube. and yeah i think i should really open up my eyes even more about life. because its not as nice and easy as that i think maybe! anyway if i may know, what was it like to study arts in university? is it tiring? do u have a hard time? anyway thank you for sharing :D
Art school is a playground with limited supervision. We smoked cigarettes in the studios, drank there, smoked weed in the classrooms after hours. I don't think anyone else had more fun in school. I majored in sculpture when I went back to finish my degree so we also played with fire, melted metal and used various industrial equipment. When I was a graphic design major things were a lot more sober. I had to deal with a lot of people with no talent or ambition who were in college because they were expected to be in college. My favorite story about one of these people was a girl who used the prompt love/hate to make a (bad) life sized plaster model of herself drinking milk with a bunch of empty milk jugs around it. She loved milk but she was lactose intolerant so that's what she came up with for the assignment. The movie Art School Confidential is good too. It seems ridiculous but art school is just that.
Welcome, rainboweater. Do you create art on your own regularly? IMO that's a very important thing. If you don't, ask yourself why. There are few careers that are harder than art. Medical school is easier; there is a clear path, and their is a system designed to reward your efforts. If you choose to to art, know that you will have to work harder than a medical student. You will have to create your own opportunities, and that starts by creating art nonstop. I planned to go to art. I ended up getting a degree in physics instead. I don't regret it. I still paint.
hi, so what do u feel when u planned to go to art but then u changed your mind? do u feel disappointed at first? what makes you changed your plan? how long have u planned to be an art student? sorry for asking too many :P but i really need everybody's pov :)
I dropped out of art school despite having a free ride and got a computer science degree after realizing art as a career was not for me. I don't regret that decision. Everyone I knew who got an art degree is either doing frontend web shitwork or working in coffee shops. There surely are people who can make a living doing art, but they are few in number and, generally, aren't making a good living doing art. Additionally, once the thing you love becomes work that can really suck the love out of it. Unless you're really dead set on doing it, so you can't see yourself being happy doing anything else, I'd say look around for other things that interest you and run with one of those. There are all sorts of wonderful things to know, I think you'll find the hard part is picking one rather than finding any. tacocat went to art school and, I think, finished. insomniasexx studied film and does design now. One of them might have a sunnier view.
tbh, i know it sounds stupid, i really like arts, but i never ever take art classes in my high school, not even why.. and, the next sad part is that maybe i'm a little overwhelmed whenever i saw someone who draws better than me, or have a greater idea than me, and it really make me down, i feel like i'll never do anything better than them. and well i think i should really think twice about it and explore new things... :)
I have a M.Mus in classical music. I definitely take this perspective, and people may agree or disagree: Can you think of anything else you want to do with your life? then do that. Art school, music school, and even jobs as professional artistic people are for the sort of people who literally cannot think of doing anything else. Nothing else drives them, nothing else works., They would be a bum on the street if it wasn't for their art form (some of them are anyways). An obsessive personality is a plus. With that said, I don't regret going through my degree one bit. It made me who I am and gave me the tools and drive to succeed. The thing about art degrees that people forget is that nothing about them specifically gets you a job. Nothing gets you a job but work and time (if you're a musician, preferably in one place - two max) As the saying goes "Overnight successes take ten years to happen." Or something like that. You have to be present and working somewhere long enough that people know you, notice you, and think your stuff is good enough that they want to work with you. The plus side to this is that it means that a degree is no strictly necessary - work and time, however, are mandatory. You don't have to be the best artist, you just have to be the hungriest - the one to work the most hours, the one to practice their craft the most, the one willing to find personal growth in gigs that are not what you want to be doing. The one who says "yes". That's the part I'm working on right now. I work a restaurant job to play the bills and am slowly filling my life up with gigs so that one day I don't have to work the resto job. That's life while I keep myself hungry.
Welcome to Hubski! There's not enough information for me to give a good answer. If you're just starting out in college, at least in the US, there are prerequisite courses to take that are just general courses. You could start out taking some of those with an art course along with the general courses to see how you fare in it. I like the idea of following your heart, and hopefully you can do some of that, but there might be more things you love once you get to college. If you're just starting out, do you have to make a choice this soon? I wouldn't worry too much about people being better than you at art in the beginning. You could get better over time, or you might find out that you want to keep it as a hobby later. Good luck!
unfortunately, the college i'm attending is not completely only for art students. the majority of students are chinese here, and which is why it makes me even more lack of self confident. i can speak chinese but not as fluent as them, that's why i can feel loneliness in my life, and that's where i started to over-thinking about what to do in the future. i know it is only my 2nd term of college, which means that i still have around a year to attending the real university life.. but well tbh i'm a little perfectionist, and i always plan anything i do before doing something. that's why i started to think whether i'm really fit to be an art student :)
If you love art just do it. Explore different media, different expressions. Try painting, try design, try printing techniques, try drawing, try whatever comes to your mind. The more you do it, the more you develop your skills and learn about the process, and with that, more creative ideas will come. When you have acquired some experience and knowledge about art you will know if a major is or is not for you. I've been corresponding with a lot of good artists from around the world and most of them never studied art. I've done some exhibitions myself and never attended art classes. (except for certain printmaking workshops). I'm in my 30s now and still don't know what to do with my life. I just know I can't stop creating art. It's a part of me. It heals my soul. No major required. :D And like you, I love making DIY things. ^_^
If I was you I would drop out and get a job in a resort town in BC or Alberta. Not knowing what you want to do for a career is fine when you're young and even not knowing yourself very well. It sounds like you like the idea of being artistic more than you do actually creating art. I went to college for architectural technician because I'm good at that stuff and I figured it would give me the life I was told I should want. Thing is I had no idea what kind of life I actually wanted because I didn't know myself well enough to make such a huge desicion. I dropped out and moved to a tiny little resort town that I didn't even know existed before I got the job and it was the best choice I ever made. The job was terrible along with my living arrangements but I met a ton of new people. It also gave me the space I needed to breath and figure myself out. I ended up picking massage therapy after meeting the MT who worked at the same hotel and I never would have considered that had I not gone. So ya, my advice is accept that you don't know yourself well enough to pick a career and go figure yourself out. There's a ton of different ways you could be creative in a job. Edit- I'll add some advice I was given by a customer one day about picking a career that was probably the best advice I was ever given. He started off telling me about how he jumped between jobs a lot and couldn't really settle on one. At one point he was working on tour buses and he loved it. He loved driving around and telling the people on his bus all about the area. Naturally he thought he loved being a tour bus driver, but when the company decided to hire somebody to do the talking so he could just drive he realized that he actually loved teaching. That caused me to look back and realize that I love working with people and helping people. That is what I needed in a career to make it rewarding.
I have a degree in Fashion Design from a fine couture art school. I make my living as a writer, and have not designed a single piece of clothing in years. Art School is for those people who are utterly driven to be artists. Every day. Every hour of every day, they create, create, create, hone their skills, learn new skills, and just churn out art because they can't stop doing it. That is clearly not you. Honestly, I think you are the perfect model of a Liberal Arts Major. Go for a Bachelor of Arts degree, which will give you a range of different learning experiences. About two years into your 4-year degree, you will probably have found that you really like certain classes, and you really hate other classes. Maybe, like mike you will surprise yourself and find yourself good at Math! Who knows? The point of a BA degree is that it allows you to sample many different things, and figure out if any of them speak to you. But art school? Nah. I don't think it is for you.
First off, your English is phenomenal. . Second, you've got some good shards of wisdom here, I'll do what I can take another perspective. While not knowing too much about the job market in Canada, as I can see with the education system: go to college, major in anything that you find interesting (or easy), get the piece of paper telling the world you have a bachelor's, and you're golden. Now, I'm a Digital Media major which, in reality, is just a graphic arts major with a fancy title. I have a similar experience at the moment. Hell, the class I'm sitting in right now typing this in (it's OK, we're reviewing on material I know), I'm sitting next to 2 amazing artists and coders that draw daily awesome doodles. Yet, through this track, I've learned Photoshop from nothing, parts of Premeire, Dreamweaver, and learning a new code language. In essence, if you have a good track, you'll learn to be as great as your peers in time. The point that'll differentiate you from the rest (like your friends) in the work force is the your 'Passion Quotient,' per se, as mk and coffeesp00ns put it in so many words. On a highly relevant subject by johnnyFive: . Now, back on track to my main point, in the big picture, your college degree itself doesn't necessarily correlate with what you will do post-college. Just ask around, I'm sure you'll find loads of evidence. That said, go to college, get the paper, get going. . But, finally, the biggest take-away I wish to give you from this comment is something that you can do right now to figure out more of your dilemma. Join a club. Or two! Or three! This is where The networks and friends you'll make from clubs, societies and classes have the potential to shape the beginning of your professional career. Finding any of those three that you're interested in will help shape your perception of "Hm, what do I like?" Additionally, going to a club and saying "Hm. I really don't like this." will be just as valuable in narrowing your search for what to do with your life. . I really hope any of this makes sense to you. I feel as though I'm going out the other side of this phase myself; I'm starting to realize just how big a deal an offer to volunteer for a Mental Health Association event is. And, remember back up in paragraph 3 what my current situation is: not anywhere related to Mental Health, but it's been an interest of mine for quite a few years. Thus, I did club shopping and came across a mental health club I enjoyed. The volunteer opportunity came from a friend in the club who was looking for people to help out at their workplace. I forgot the rest of what I was going to type, so I'll sum it up there. I wish you the best in finding out what drives you to soar. I'd be very interested to see what comes of this all in the time to come. :) Ah. I almost forgot. Welcome to Hubski. :D major in anything that you find interesting (or easy)
, for this, reference all these other posts on here. My point being, finding what you to do life will come to you based on how much and/or what you put into your college experience. My point being, finding what you to do life will come to you based on how much and/or what you put into your college experience.
comes into play. College is an amazing place for finding out what's out there in the "real world". I'm reading i just love arts, i love animation, i love how arts encourage me to even study more and i love making DIY things, and designing.
so to tie this all back together, I would highly, highly suggest looking at any related clubs to join. Design clubs? Art clubs? Art History? Hell, anime club? Any club. In fact, I'd go further and write don't limit yourself to just arts clubs. Interested in psychology? Try it! This doesn't mean looking for a long-term place. Maybe just finding a club every two weeks to check in on that you're interested in. These are what I believe will drive you forward.
It seems pretty common to have this crisis about career aspirations/ future in general. As someone said earlier, maybe you could look into some of the foundation courses? I initially wanted to be a Teacher. My mother was one, her sisters are both teachers and principals now, their parents were teachers and principals. It seemed like the way for me to go! Then I got to the crunch time of picking my course, and I went with Psychology instead. I also did this under a Bachelor of Arts - so yeah it seemed like the coffee making life was to be my destiny. But I thought long and hard about why I wanted to be a teacher, and I realized it was just the expectation I had placed on myself over the years. It always seemed natural to follow the same path as my family - yet I was drawn to Psychology, the study of behaviour, analyzing people - weird experiments and all. So I studied what I was drawn too, rather than what I had expected to study. Sure enough, graduated and moved on with life. But thankfully I work for the NZ Government, and I'm very thankful to be where I am - though I wouldn't put it down to the degree itself getting me the job. BAs are extremely common in my generation where tertiary education is the expected route. In saying that, are you wanting to study animation/graphic and turn it into a career? Do you think you can? What other hobbies or interests do you have? It's definitely not unheard of to change your major. And it's still early days in your student career!
that's nice to hear that u get a really nice job :) well, my sisters and brother studied business management, but i really never interested in math or even business, its just not my way. i do prefer something that involve creativity and drawings and etc.. i think i really should reconsider everything! if i may know, how do u feel when u realize that being a teacher is just your expectation? because i think its going to be my turn soon...? :)
Seconding jadedog in saying that there isn't really enough to go off here. What year of college are you in right now? Why are you struggling with the courses that you're taking? When it comes to college, talent helps, but perseverance and hard work tend to be much more important, which is why it's worthwhile to pick something that you're interested in (IMO).
well i'm still in my 2nd term of college, which means i still have around a year to attend the real university.. i know its sound pretty annoying to know that i still have a long journey, and i can think about it later on. but yeah i'm a little perfectionist maybe.. i always planning about what should i do in the future. even though i'm still 18, but i just can't really enjoy my life if i'm not planning anything about my future. i'm just afraid to face the truth, even though i have no idea what will happen in my future.. but yeah i think i should really open up my mind and see if i have any other interests! :)
How large is your trust fund? If you plan on having to earn money for a living or have to take loans to go to art school then art school is not for you. That being said maybe we can help you figure out some other options. What are you good at? Math? Science? Are you super social? Are you very detail oriented? Are you a good writer? Presenter?
hmm i'm not quite sure about that. my parents willing to pay the tuition for me, but sometimes i do really think that its too expensive, so that i'm also looking for a job to earn some money.. both my sisters and my brother studied business management, but i dont really have interest in it. i prefer something that using creativity. i do like movies and films, so i was once considered to take films school, but again, its also quite too expensive.. i love to read, but never really try to write a book by myself.. i'm quite a shy person, but also i can get socialize easily.. there's never gonna be a way for me to be a presenter, haha. because i can't even do presentation well in class, not to mention in front of public right? :D is there any other way for me to find some new interest? i think i'm quite stuck for now, because to be an art student is one of my life goal tbh :)
That's fine, it's great to have goals for the future, so long as you're aware that there's a possibility that those goals may not work out. The nice thing about being where you're at right now is that you still have time to explore different options. I would encourage you to keep taking art classes, but also to not be afraid to try different things, both in college and at university. If there's a class that sounds really cool, give it a try. You never know what hidden strengths you might uncover.
i'm glad to hear that, because i never discuss this kind of thing with my family, friends and not even my boy friend. idk why, i just thought that i'm not really comfortable to share my stories with the person i know.. do u have any idea how to find out something new maybe? :D
I don't know how your college/university system works, but if you're able to take courses outside of Art, then look at course calendars/listings and see what sounds like it could be interesting and take it. Also take a look at student clubs for different activities. Be ready to push your comfort level a little bit.