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thenewgreen  ·  3023 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: So apparently Hillary Clinton fainted today and r/politics is on fire about it.

I'm seeing more and more evidence of people that are seemingly rationale conservatives and independents saying they're going to vote for him. These are people in my family and former colleagues at work, so it's anectdotal. But I made this prediction prior to any GOP debates. He's such a good marketer. He understands the mob. We are living in idiocracy. The d-u-m-b people outnumber the rest. Getting them to the polls is the trick. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if he offered to pick people up in limos that are pledged to vote for him....





user-inactivated  ·  3023 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I want to start this by saying that I am to the slight left of Sanders, and saw him and the conversation he started as a jumping off point for something more like the Social Democrats in Germany.

You want to know why people are going to vote Trump? They are angry, they are scared, and they have been ignored for a generation. The Democrats abandoned the middle of the nation in their minds and left them to the Republicans. They watch Fox News because crime is out of control (even if it is still the lowest its been in decades), the economy is shit, their jobs are being off-shored, and they are fed this constant stream of media shit. But the stream of media shit is like religion in that it tells them they suffer now for a good life down the line when they are all rich and healthy and life is sunshine and rainbows if only we had a true conservative prophet to lead us. but instead they saw Trump as someone the establishment hated and got him the nomination.

    He's such a good marketer. He understands the mob.

And the thing about mobs is that individuals turn off the logic part of their brains and go with the flow of the mayhem. I work with people who, although they don't quite use these words, want the whole thing to burn down so it can be rebuilt by the 'True Believers" and it just so happens they are the ones who can elect the right people.

    I'm seeing more and more evidence of people that are seemingly rationale conservatives and independents saying they're going to vote for him. These are people in my family and former colleagues at work, so it's anectdotal.

I'm starting to get scared that Hillary is going to lose. I'm having the same anecdotes. And the Hillary campaign is not doing anything that I can see that is reaching out to the people in the middle and telling them "We are a great country, we don't need to be made great again, we need to fix our shit and move forward." I think that this comes from having, for lack of a better way of saying it, "grandma and grandpa" running for President. Older people back, and we need people who can move us forward.