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comment by Quatrarius
Quatrarius  ·  2425 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Can a Male Artist Still Paint a Female Nude?

i think that thinking about how people / appearances are portrayed in art is something that's obviously a good thing, and the stupid title and that stupid tag try to swing this into a big ol culture war me-too masturbapile

it's an interesting thing to talk about but the format is all wrong





user-inactivated  ·  2425 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Curious about who's been tagging posts with #bubblewrapundies, had to do a couple searches to understand what it meant... (current understanding is its a reference to GenY and political correctedness). I'd like to think the expansion from gun rights discussion to racism and now the me too topic means the trend is more about current events on the whole - its not as though these discussions are new or came about when GenY grew old enough to talk/contribute to public discourse.

If you see the trend in what's been tagged, then I guess its worth pointing out that it's serving its purpose to open the discussion - wrong formatting or otherwise.

Sidenote, sorta wondering who made the tag and their idea for its inception. Since the current posts under the tag have a scope that could have included loads of older posts of late, wondering if it was a newer user. If so, does the promotion system grant new users the ability to add/change tags even if they haven't earned a full hubwheel.

OftenBen  ·  2419 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I made the tag. Loosely, it represents what I see as the continuing infantilization of the average citizen. Individual people have never had a greater potential to self-actualize than today. And as time goes on that potential will increase exponentially. This problem cannot be solved by whack-a-mole-ing specific modes and methods of causing harm, because new and more horrific forms of harm can always be devised. It started as a firearms specific tag, but I think it just as easily applies to certain kinds of badthink as well, such as the British teenager who is now a criminal because of some lyrics posted to social media. As I have said in another post relating to guns, ‘feeling offended’ is not justification for anything other than strong words. Combat must be restrained to words and ideas, and never cross over into physical violence. By equating speech to violence, we open the spectrum of acceptable debate to include physical violence.

I tagged this post because retailers of all kinds have Youtube channels that they use to advertise and demonstrate their products. Many of these other vendors are selling products that if used inappropriately, could result in harm to their users or others. Truck attacks are becoming increasingly common, is the solution to that problem the banning of all automobile related content on Youtube? This is symbolic at best. Those who want to shoot various things wrapped in or filled with tannerite for fun will always ALWAYS find ways to do so. Better to have these things out in the open where they can be monitored. Various countries have legislation that says if you want to own a firearm you have to be a part of a regular attendee of a gun club. This prevents the kind of isolation that can lead to radicalization and violence.

Jokes have been made in the past about ‘not trying to nerf the world’ but that’s precisely what I see happening. I found the ‘The Path Forward’ article insightful and reasonable. I tagged it because of the discussion that resulted is a perfect example of what the article is trying to describe. There exists a massive amount of bad faith on both sides of this debate, and the moderate majority is left unrepresented. This problem is not unique to the gun control debate. This post is not about gun control in specific, but about the origin and intent of this tag. I find the position of ‘ban all guns’ impractical and un-nuanced. It it represents an undercurrent of semi-political thought that believes that the gradual removal of all possibly dangerous things from the public awareness is desirable. Random person to person to violence is at an all time low and decreasing. Drastically restricting the rights of law abiding citizens to account for the actions of a tiny proportion of people is simply unreasonable.

Quatrarius  ·  2417 days ago  ·  link  ·  

you won't let me make fun of your JP posts anymore

OftenBen  ·  2408 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I don't think that there is anything funny about suicidal and otherwise mentally unhealthy people finding good and positive things in their lives to work towards.

Quatrarius  ·  2408 days ago  ·  link  ·  

did it take you 8 days to find the moral or the intellectual high ground

OftenBen  ·  2375 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It took me 8 days to be able to engage with you on this topic without just calling you a doo doo head.