I think Cliff is a racist because he supports the abridgment of peoples first amendment right to oppose hate speech. He never even acknowledged that the speech he wanted to stop was merely speech in opposition to racist hate speech nor that that the racist hate speech was racist. He pretends to be a great lover and defender of the constitution while at the same time muzzling free expression. I don't know what other conclusion to draw from what he has said.

Neither his own defense of his racist position and that of newgreens defense of Cliffs not being racist were arguments that were structured toward the matter at hand. Holding racist positions and positions that support the suppression of Americans rights to free speech aren't disproved by being nice to a black person.

I embarrassed myself, and apologized and then more clearly stated my arguments on why Cliffs position was a racist position that wasn't consistent with his stated values. In turn he said that I was calling him racist because he is a conservative, called me a troll and ignored me. I understand that it's often more comfortable to ignore criticism when you find that you can't justify your own position and try to put the burden of that discomfort on the other person but I think that type of behavior is also cowardly and intellectually dishonest.