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kleinbl00  ·  1 day ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Juicero, but make it for coffee

We touched on this before, when you were championing the immolation engine that was Spinlaunch. I argue that this does not represent health in the market, it represents illness.

The whole schtick is "here's an idea people recognize as maybe profitable." It doesn't have to be. It doesn't have to ever be. You don't get to know anything about it because you're trusting the VCs to do that for you. And of course, you don't get to give them your money until (A) you have a lot of it (B) you've been invited. Meanwhile they take your money, rub it against everyone else's, and sprinkle it however the fuck they feel like, much of it on their friends, ostensibly in pursuit of bringing brilliant ideas to market that will change the world and make everyone rich. But look at this shit.

    The awarded nunc. coffee system offers a whole new experience, taste and ritual for premium coffee with a tech-enabled success guarantee.

It's a Juicero. For coffee. For a target price of $3500.

    Mission: "The world deserves a better coffee experience at home. A new ritual. More fascinating, more exciting, more social, higher quality, more fair, more sustainable."

"more fascinating, more exciting, more social?" it's cheaper to go to fucking Starbuck's how the fuck is this more social? it's more than a bunch of PR hype it's a bunch of fucking lies.

And the lies are coming from inside the house! The fuckin' VC money was at play before anyone even thought of making a coffee Juicero! Because Venture Stars had money from rich people to distribute to bad ideas they could profit on before blowing out and talking about being in the arena trying things. Kleiner-Perkins has to have at least a couple people on staff who took high school physics yet they still gave Spinlaunch forty fucking million dollars. Why?

It wasn't their fucking money.

See, if the VCs were actually risking their own cash? I'd be with you. But they're not. They're taking a cut of other peoples' money through a shell game of access, nepotism and perverted incentives.





veen  ·  1 day ago  ·  link  ·  

There was a quickly put down (by VCs) movement by a central banker to call VC’s locusts. I think we should bring that back.

    What the locust swarm has left the great locusts have eaten; what the great locusts have left the young locusts have eaten; what the young locusts have left other locusts have eaten.
am_Unition  ·  16 hours ago  ·  link  ·  

I get more than a little uneasy with any dehumanization of oppressed groups.

And that's why I'm very comfortable saying:

The VCs are locusts. Ponzi-pox-plague-a-palooza locusts.

This is your brain on VC.

Tell your kids: "Charlie's in the Valley". edit: it's a Vietnam reference from a 30-year-old to an audience of 20-somethings and it went great, reader.

fun fact: Did you know that here in the central time zone states we face west, and most of us will chant "SV VC SV VC SV VC SV VC SV VC" (if you know, you know) for oh about 20 minutes or so during every tornado or hurricane, whichever comes first that day

sogre  ·  15 hours ago  ·  link  ·  

By calling VCs locusts, you're framing the problem as “this unrelenting exhaustion and destruction is inherent to their nature” instead of attributing it to the system that enables them to thrive.

And the dehumanization of anyone should be appalling, not making you conditionally uneasy.

am_Unition  ·  15 hours ago  ·  link  ·  

Oh I didn't meet my "shit on capitalism right here and now for this particular person I've never talked to before" quota.

No the inherent shittiness of capitalism absolves all of the laughably bad faith actors.?

Poor billionaires! Do you think they made it to billionaire-levels by being really nice? No, it seems to usually take a strongman moron financed on luck and/or daddy's money, judging by the statistics.

edit: yeah, goes without saying, this is an indictment of the entire system. A system they largely and increasingly control. Where do you draw the line between individual actions and "systemic" scale sizes?

sogre  ·  14 hours ago  ·  link  ·  

    No the inherent shittiness of capitalism absolves all of the laughably bad faith actors.?

No. Capitalism is what enables them to optimize for profit within given parameters. Any system would create them, being mad at parameters allowing shitty optimum rather than someone doing it can at least provoke a discussion.

    Poor fucking billionaires! ...is.. is your face sweating right now

"Treating another human being as if they aren't one is reprehensible" means "defending billionaires." Sure, whatever-you clearly hear what you want to be angry at, and I don't need to be here for that.

ButterflyEffect  ·  14 hours ago  ·  link  ·  

look you two

this thread is for making fun of the stupid fucking idea that is the nunc.

back on topic please!

am_Unition  ·  14 hours ago  ·  link  ·  

I ordered one of these and all of the coffee was black tea

4/5 stars

am_Unition  ·  14 hours ago  ·  link  ·  

    being mad at parameters allowing shitty optimum rather than someone doing it can at least provoke a discussion

Let me recap this for you: We have had the discussions. These people are the problem. They are now literally the system. The ultrawealthy. And they do not care about you.

I have been quite amazed at the number of people who will politely, quietly settle themselves into their own graves, and ask me why I'm going after the guy dragging them behind the barn so viciously.

I love the idea of not being angry right now. Edit: Oh well. Yeah I'll try to humanize the ten people intentionally psychologically torturing a few million federal workers and contractors. Sorry. Edit2: citation

Edit2: One more thing. The wealthiest man in the history of the world has illegally broken into the treasury of the richest country in the history of the world, lies about really anything that enters his vision, and has recently said, to Joe Rogan and an audience of at least several million, deadpan; "and people are living much longer, unfortunately", to justify throwing your grandma out of her nursing home soon. Focus on the capitalist system..? The issue is that this isn't capitalism. Capitalism is now "the good ol' days". This is a coup of the united states by the billionaire investor class. So no, I won't be saying anything remotely like "yeah maybe we shouldn't call these idiot Nazi shitbags 'locusts'".

I'm sorry I know this seems incredibly mean, but this has been elevated to Serious Shit and I'm not gonna sit around and do some bothsides kumbaya reprieve while we all get gradually less and less safe, wealthy, and fucking decent. I don't enjoy this! God

am_Unition  ·  8 hours ago  ·  link  ·  

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